On Thu, Oct 06, 2016 at 08:22:20AM +0200, Hanno Böck wrote:
> On Wed, 5 Oct 2016 22:46:24 -0700
> Peter Bowen <pzbo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > I think we can all look back with 20/20 hindsight and say that device
> > vendors should not use the same roots as browsers and that maybe CAs
> > should have created "SHA-1 forever" roots for devices that never plan
> > to update, but that is great hindsight. We have the problem now, so we
> > need an answer.
> 
> I find that a rather strange conclusion.
> Device vendors shouldn't ship devices they never plan to update. If we
> can't even agree on that... (after the Brian Krebs incident even more
> so)
> 
> Also one thing I'd like to point out that I find very strange in this
> discussion: The demise of SHA-1 was known since 2004.
> 
> Do these financial vendors use products that are older than 2004? Or
> have they ignored the issue until 2014 when browser vendors finally
> started to indicate some action on the issue?

I think everybody ignored this until around 2013.


Kurt

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