Hi all,

This is the OEM certificate from Certum, Certum own and control everything with 
its own validation, you can check the test site: https://ovpretest.wosign.com 
that its CPS/CRL/OCSP/OID all belong to Certum.

I don't think WoSign can't be a reseller of other CA.

Thanks. 


Best Regards,

Richard

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Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2016 7:30 AM
To: Tobias Sachs <[email protected]>
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: WoSign has new roots?

On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 10:56 PM, Tobias Sachs <[email protected]> wrote:
> Am Dienstag, 22. November 2016 21:37:08 UTC+1 schrieb Lewis Resmond:
>> Hello,
>>
>> I just noticed following announcement by WoSign:
>>
>> https://www.wosign.com/english/News/certificate_pre.htm
>>
>> If I understand correctly, they now have new root certificates which chain 
>> up to Certum, which is in the root storage.
>>
>> What does that mean in particular? Are the previously taken sanctions now 
>> useless?
>
> According to this comment [1] I think yes. But this means also that the new 
> ca is now the target. You can find the cert mentioned there here [2] and the 
> intermediate here [3] which is not in the CT logs...

The intermediate certificates were disclosed in Mozilla's CA database[1] and 
are currently filed under "CP/CPS Same As Parent" and "Audits Same As Parent".

I assume that this means Certum holds the keys for these intermediates and 
WoSign is essentially acting as a reseller. I don't think that's something 
Mozilla can or should object to.

I'm a bit unclear on whether WoSign could be acting as a Registration Authority 
for certificates issued under that intermediate and what the auditing and 
disclose requirements for that would be - maybe someone more familiar with the 
BRs can comment. WoSign acting as a RA prior to finishing the re-application 
process would be troubling given their previous failures in that area.

[1]: https://mozillacaprogram.secure.force.com/CA/PublicAllIntermediateCerts
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