(Posting in an official capacity)

Jakob,

As the initial message said:
"You can participate in this discussion at
https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/forum/#!topic/blink-dev/eUAKwjihhBs
"

I've removed the cross-post, to ensure that threads do not fork due to
members being subscribed to one list versus the other.

I know this is a new approach, and appreciate your understanding as we try
to work through the challenges.


On Thu, Mar 23, 2017 at 3:54 PM, Jakob Bohm via dev-security-policy <
dev-security-policy@lists.mozilla.org> wrote:

> On 23/03/2017 20:27, Ryan Sleevi wrote:
>
>> On Thu, Mar 23, 2017 at 1:38 PM, Jakob Bohm via dev-security-policy <
>> dev-security-policy@lists.mozilla.org> wrote:
>>
>> On 23/03/2017 17:09, Ryan Sleevi wrote:
>>>
>>> (Posting in a Google Capacity)
>>>>
>>>> I just wanted to notify the members of this Forum that we have started
>>>> an
>>>> Intent to Deprecate and Remove, consistent with our Blink process,
>>>> related
>>>> to certain certificates issued by Symantec Corporation.
>>>>
>>>> This is a proposed plan, not a final commitment, and we welcome all
>>>> feedback from members of this Forum to understand the risks and
>>>> challenges.
>>>> To understand the goals of this process, you can find more details at
>>>> https://www.chromium.org/blink
>>>>
>>>> You can participate in this discussion at
>>>> https://groups.google.com/a/ch
>>>> romium.org/forum/#!topic/blink-dev/eUAKwjihhBs
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> According to the linked document, Google is intending to distrust *all*
>>> Symantec issued certificates with a validity longer than 9 months,
>>> which is less that the 12 month validity normally being the minimum
>>> that site operators can purchase from CAs such as Symantec.
>>>
>>> It is also worth noting that this is apparently scheduled to occur less
>>> than 12 months from now (The document refers to Chrome/Blink version
>>> numbers with no associated dates, but contains a mention that one of
>>> the relevant releases would happen over the "winter holiday",
>>> presumably Christmas 2017).
>>>
>>> Since I know of no commercial (as opposed to free) CAs that routinely
>>> sell certificates with a duration of less than 12 months, this seems
>>> highly draconian and designed to drive Symantec out of the CA business.
>>>
>>> It also seems to ignore every mitigating factor discussed in this
>>> group, including those posted by Symantec themselves.
>>>
>>> For example the cited number of "30,000" affected certificates seems to
>>> come from the number of certificates that Symantec is actively double
>>> checking to ensure they were *not* misissued in a way similar to the
>>> original 127.
>>>
>>> It would seem that the only way to remain interoperable with both
>>> Chrome and the legacy devices and systems that trust only Symantec
>>> owned roots, would be if Chrome's TLS implementation somehow identified
>>> itself to servers as being a Chrome-based implementation before servers
>>> present their certificate.
>>>
>>> The computing world at large would be significantly inconvenienced if
>>> Symantec was forced to close down its CA business, in particular the
>>> parts of that business catering to other markets than general WebPki
>>> certificates.
>>>
>>
>>
>>
> The above message (and one by Symantec) were posted to the
> mozilla.dev.security.policy newsgroup prior to becoming aware of
> Google's decision to move the discussion to its own private mailing
> list and procedures.  I would encourage everyone concerned to keep the
> public Mozilla newsgroup copied on all messages in this discussion,
> which seems to have extremely wide repercussions.
>
>
>
>
> Enjoy
>
> Jakob
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