On 13/04/2017 15:46, Gervase Markham wrote:
Hi Rob,

You either have a great memory or good search-fu; well done for digging
this out!

On 12/04/17 22:14, Rob Stradling wrote:
Gerv, FYI what you're proposing here
(https://github.com/mozilla/pkipolicy/issues/69) was slated to appear in
v2.1 of the policy, but it was vetoed by Symantec.

Here's why...

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/mozilla.dev.security.policy/l1BAEHjKe8Q/mey4WREKpooJ

Hmm. I note we didn't end up using Symantec's proposed text either.

I'm not sure I entirely understand their objection. They wanted to
confirm via "business controls" that the customer was authorized to
issue email certs for the domain. What sort of thing might that be, and
how is it different to a technical control? Does it just involve the
customer pinky-swearing that it's OK for them to issue such certs?

I can see that CAs might want to issue email certs for almost any
domain, if the controller of an email address comes and asks for one.
But in that sort of case, I wouldn't expect them to be using a TCSC.
TCSCs are for "Hi, I'm Company X, and have 100,000 employees with
@companyx.com email addresses, and want to issue them publicly-trusted
email certs. Give me a TCSC for @companyx.com." Whereupon the CA would
get them to prove they own that domain, then provide them with such a
certificate.


Could the difference be one of outsourcing: Suppose Company X has
outsourced e-mail server operations (but not employee identity
checking) to big-name email provider Y.  Then Y has technical control
over @companyx.com, but Company X has business control and the
authority to decide who should and shouldn't get @companyx.com e-mail
certs.  For @companyx.maily.net e-mail addresses, that authority may
also be divorced from ownership of the maily.net domain.



Enjoy

Jakob
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