On 15/12/2017 02:30, Ryan Sleevi wrote:
On Thu, Dec 14, 2017 at 5:01 PM Jakob Bohm via dev-security-policy <
[email protected]> wrote:

On 14/12/2017 00:23, Peter Gutmann wrote:
Tim Shirley via dev-security-policy <
[email protected]> writes:

But regardless of which (or neither) is true, the very fact that EV
certs are
rarely (never?) used on phishing sites

There's no need:


https://info.phishlabs.com/blog/quarter-phishing-attacks-hosted-https-domains

In particular, "the rate at which phishing sites are hosted on HTTPS
pages is
rising significantly faster than overall HTTPS adoption".


But how many of those are on *EV-certified https URLs* is the question
raised here.


No, it isn’t.

In particular, some participants insist there are many of those, but
have yet to post even a single concrete example, let alone statistics of
how many such examples exist.


Could you point to such an example where a participant insisted that? Or is
that merely a straw man argument used to advance a logically flawed
position?

Some participants have pointed out correlation is not causation - that you
can’t infer that never being attacked by a tiger while you’re holding a
particular rock means that the rock repels tigers, anymore than EV UI
prevents phishing.


YOU in particularly have kept insisting that it is a "myth" that
phishing sites don't use EV certificates, yet keep pointing to articles
about non-EV failures.

Now you rephrase it as "the EV UI versus phishing", dodging the
question.


Enjoy

Jakob
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