On Thu, Apr 7, 2022 at 11:59 AM Moudrick Dadashov <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Thanks Ryan,
>
> actually simplification applies only to the organisational infrastructure
> and allows us to  concentrate on two major  players: CABs and
> accreditation  bodies.
>
> Why we need this? If we succeed with minimal requirements for both
> players, it should help to harmonise the root program requirements.
>
> Although it does require significant efforts, but both the accredition and
> certification rely on the same semi-formalised "conformity assessmens
> scheme" concept, which  methodologically is very close to CP/CPS for CAs.
>

Moudrick,

Thanks. I think your reply demonstrates the confusion that I was trying to
address. It is not fair nor accurate to think about this in terms of
Conformity Assessment Bodies and Accreditation Bodies. That is **not** a
common element between the two programs, nor is it a common goal.

Indeed, I have tried to communicate in the past as to why attempting to
view CAs through the lens of conformity assessment and accreditation is a
*technically flawed* approach with respect to security. That's not to say
that the very notion of conformity assessment is flawed, but that, in PKI,
an accreditation and conformity assessment approach provides different
results than those necessary for security.

If conformity assessment was the end-all be all, for example, you would not
see requirements for vendor security assessments in work such as GDPR,
because the vendor would simply need to be "accredited". That's not the
case, however, because situations such as that are context-specific, and
require individual approaches to understanding the overall relationship.
Conformity assessment can *help*, sure, but it's *not* a replacement.

So no, it's a non-goal to focus on CABs and accreditation bodies, as they
are not the "two major players".

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