Hi Rufus,

If you can point us to the specific messages of the thread, it would be really 
helpful.

Thanks,

DZ.


Jun 24, 2022 21:13:05 Buschart, Rufus <[email protected]>:

> Hi!
> 
> Remembering the discussion while creating this policy sentence, I think it 
> was never the intend to include expired or revoked ICAs in CCADB.
> 
> /Rufus
> 
> *From:* 'Stephen Davidson' via [email protected] 
> <[email protected]>
> *Sent:* Friday, 24 June 2022 19:48
> *To:* Dimitris Zacharopoulos <[email protected]>; Rob Stradling 
> <[email protected]>; [email protected] <[email protected]>
> *Subject:* RE: Draft May 2022 CA Communication and Survey
> 
> Hello:
> 
> I agree with Dimitris.  The CAs I am familiar with on your list were revoked 
> before there was a requirement for them to be disclosed in CCADB, and in any 
> case do not have remaining leaf certificates within their respective validity 
> periods.  In short, the CAs are not capable of issuing working certs today, 
> and none of their previous leaf certs should be working.
> 
> Also, a number of those CAs are email.  Is oneCRL used for non-TLS?
> 
> It would be helpful for a policy clarification if there is a new requirement 
> to report ICAs that were discontinued before the respective CCADB 
> requirements.  It is potentially a large number of CAs.
> 
> Regards, Stephen
> 
> *From:* [email protected] <[email protected]> *On 
> Behalf Of *Dimitris Zacharopoulos
> *Sent:* Friday, June 24, 2022 9:27 AM
> *To:* Rob Stradling <[email protected]>; [email protected] 
> <[email protected]>
> *Subject:* Re: Draft May 2022 CA Communication and Survey
> 
> Hi Rob,
> 
> I believe the requirement does not include the disclosure of Revoked subCAs 
> as they are not /"technically capable of issuing working server or email 
> certificates"/.
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> Dimitris.
> 
> 
> On 24/6/2022 3:13 μ.μ., 'Rob Stradling' via [email protected] 
> wrote:
> 
> Hi.  This is a friendly reminder about the recent Mozilla Root Store Policy 
> update[1] that was communicated in ITEM 7 /(Publicly Disclose Intermediate CA 
> Certificates capable of Issuing TLS or SMIME...in the CCADB *by July 1, 2022, 
> even if they are technically constrained*)/ of the May 2022 CA Communication 
> and Survey.
> 
> Today I've updated https://crt.sh/mozilla-disclosures to bring it in line 
> with this Policy update.
> 
> crt.sh currently knows of 40 technically-constrained CA certificates [2] that 
> are /"capable of issuing working server or email certificates"/ but that have 
> not yet been disclosed to the CCADB.  Since some of these CA certificates 
> were issued by CAs whose response to ITEM 7 was /"The CCADB already contains 
> all our CA certificates capable of issuing working server or email 
> certificates, including those that are technically constrained"/ [3], I would 
> like to encourage CA operators to take another look at this topic to ensure 
> that their CA is compliant by the upcoming July 1st deadline.
> 
> [1] 
> https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/about/governance/policies/security-group/certs/policy/#5-certificates:~:text=Name%2Dconstrained%20CA%20certificates%20that%20are%20technically%20capable%20of%20issuing%20working%20server%20or%20email%20certificates%20that%20were%20exempt%20from%20disclosure%20in%20previous%20versions%20of%20this%20policy%20MUST%20be%20disclosed%20in%20the%20CCADB%20prior%20to%20July%201%2C%202022.
> 
> [2] https://crt.sh/mozilla-disclosures#constrained
> 
> [3] 
> https://ccadb-public.secure.force.com/mozillacommunications/CACommResponsesOnlyReport?CommunicationId=a058Z000013UmsDQAS&QuestionId=Q00175,Q00176
> 
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> 
> *From:* [email protected] <[email protected]> on 
> behalf of Ben Wilson <[email protected]>
> *Sent:* 16 May 2022 21:50
> *To:* [email protected] <[email protected]>
> *Subject:* Re: Draft May 2022 CA Communication and Survey
> 
>  
> 
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> All,
> 
> I'm going to hit "send" on the May 2022 CA Communication and Survey this 
> afternoon.  CA responses will be made available at 
> https://wiki.mozilla.org/CA/Communications#May_2022_Responses[https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwiki.mozilla.org%2FCA%2FCommunications%23May_2022_Responses&data=05%7C01%7Crob%40sectigo.com%7Cbb2c24cb91ff4d55ac8c08da377db30a%7C0e9c48946caa465d96604b6968b49fb7%7C0%7C0%7C637883311610867187%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=o8cs1J2%2BoSjajaBdHB4AXTlT%2BKDysCagM4sJhh%2BI6R4%3D&reserved=0].
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> Thanks,
> 
> Ben
> 
> On Thu, May 12, 2022 at 2:43 PM Ben Wilson <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> All,
> 
> Please review and provide feedback on the following draft of the May 2022 CA 
> Communication and Survey that we plan to send to CAs in the Mozilla root 
> store: 
> 
> https://ccadb-public.secure.force.com/mozillacommunications/CACommunicationSurveySample?CACommunicationId=a058Z000013UmsDQAS[https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fccadb-public.secure.force.com%2Fmozillacommunications%2FCACommunicationSurveySample%3FCACommunicationId%3Da058Z000013UmsDQAS&data=05%7C01%7Crob%40sectigo.com%7Cbb2c24cb91ff4d55ac8c08da377db30a%7C0e9c48946caa465d96604b6968b49fb7%7C0%7C0%7C637883311610867187%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=OuUq3Lm2SuiIS6N3r8GqYOLs%2FQ%2Bt%2F19yII0p09p%2F46s%3D&reserved=0]
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> Thanks,
> 
> Ben
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