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I'll see what I can do to get this straightened out.
Ben

On Wed, Jan 25, 2023 at 7:06 PM Kurt Seifried <[email protected]> wrote:

> Is BJCA.cn still on this list? if we've only got 3 weeks (21 days) and
> they take 2+ days to answer we're going to run out of time pretty quickly.
>
> On Mon, Jan 23, 2023 at 6:11 PM Kurt Seifried <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> This seems to mostly depend upon BJCA.cn disclosing information to us.
>> Information we have asked for in the past but been told is "confidential"
>> and so on.
>>
>> So with this in mind: BJCA.cn: can you please explain how your company is
>> structured to prevent subversion of the root certificate authority? E.g.
>> technical measures can be circumvented trivially if the people running them
>> are told to do so (and if they don't they can be replaced with people that
>> will).
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 23, 2023 at 4:57 PM Ben Wilson <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> All,
>>>
>>> We recently concluded a six-week public discussion on the CCADB Public
>>> list for the root inclusion request of Beijing CA (BJCA),
>>> https://groups.google.com/a/ccadb.org/g/public/c/o9lbCbr92Ug/m/lPkqrHF1DQAJ.
>>>  This
>>> email is to announce a continued 3-week discussion of BJCA’s inclusion
>>> application to be held on this list. The reason for this continued
>>> discussion is that we need to gather more information to better understand
>>> BJCA’s operational and management controls and the One Pass software (among
>>> any other issues that might be raised during this continued discussion).
>>>
>>> The current state of our understanding is summarized in the post
>>> referenced in the link above. That is, BJCA operates two different
>>> infrastructures, one that meets the needs of its national government and
>>> another that aims to meet the needs of the global public. Also, according
>>> to BJCA, the One Pass software was mislabelled as spyware.
>>>
>>> There hasn’t been enough evidence yet to make conclusions about these
>>> two questions–how is management and operation of the two infrastructures
>>> separated, given that they both are part of the same company, and did the
>>> Beijing One Pass software have any components that would be considered
>>> spyware? I would expect that BJCA might want to respond initially to these
>>> questions, even if they believe that they have answered them adequately in
>>> the past.
>>>
>>> We need fact-based discourse that answers these questions.
>>>
>>> In addition to these questions, does anyone have examples of other
>>> conduct by BJCA or insights into its practices? Can anyone provide more
>>> information about BJCA’s information security practices, compliance with
>>> international standards, or performance under other metrics that will help
>>> determine its future conduct, were it to become a publicly trusted CA?
>>>
>>> I’d like to continue this discussion through Monday, February 13, 2023.
>>> As with the public discussion held on CCADB Public, please reply directly
>>> in this discussion thread with thoughtful and constructive comments, and a
>>> representative of BJCA must respond here to all questions or issues that
>>> are raised.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Ben
>>>
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>>
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