Hi Matt,

Thanks for your feedback and for sharing your concerns.

To clarify, this meeting is not intended to replace or diminish any of the 
existing asynchronous channels for discussion about the Mozilla root 
program, such as this list, Bugzilla, and GitHub. They all remain the 
primary forums for open, transparent, and inclusive input regarding the 
root program. The round-table discussion is meant only to supplement these 
by specifically focusing attention toward improving the root program.

While I understand, respect, and agree with your points that accessibility 
and transparency are important, I plan to move forward, but I commit to 
making the outcomes of the meeting available to the greatest extent 
possible with notes and follow-up discussions here to ensure that all 
interested parties can stay informed and contribute.

Again, we appreciate your participation and involvement in our ongoing 
discussions, in which your insights are always highly valued.

Thanks again,

Ben



On Wednesday, April 9, 2025 at 5:09:23 PM UTC-6 Matt Palmer wrote:

> On Mon, Apr 07, 2025 at 11:13:04AM -0600, 'Ben Wilson' via 
> dev-security-policy@mozilla.org wrote:
> > I’d like to announce that the Mozilla CA Program will hold a roundtable
> > discussion on Zoom to gather feedback and ideas to improve our root 
> program.
>
> I would like to express my strong disapproval of this approach to
> discussing the Mozilla root program. It disadvantages those in
> timezones which do not align with the chosen one, and also anyone who is
> unable for whatever reason to be available at the specified time.
> Further, there is already far too many instances of (variations of) the
> phrase "that was discussed at the F2F" in various places, seemingly used
> in an attempt to shut down discussion, and the addition of the phrase
> "that was discussed in the Zoom" will not improve the situation.
>
> It would be far more inclusive for all discussion to take place on
> async-friendly mediums, in forms that are amenable to archiving and
> straightforward referencing.
>
> > The roundtable will be scheduled for 90 minutes
>
> [...]
>
> > The purpose of the meeting would be to engage in open, constructive
> > dialogue regarding:
> >
> > - Suggested improvements to the Mozilla Root Store Policy
> > - Updates or enhancements to CA-related wiki pages
> > - Efficiency and effectiveness during the root inclusion process or with
> > CA incident handling
> > - Clarity and consistency of Mozilla program communications
> > - Broader discussions re: paths forward for the Web PKI
>
> I could talk, single-handedly, for 90 minutes on each of those topics,
> and I'm not even particularly deeply involved in the minutiae of the
> WebPKI.
>
> - Matt
>
>

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