On Thu, Jun 05, 2025 at 02:29:36PM -0600, Jeremy Rowley wrote:
> Hi Amir - I'm one of the people who mentioned ACME on the call. I've been
> doing a lot of ACME related setups lately. It works wonderfully for server
> devices but non-servers (like firewalls) are a pain. They require my team
> to write scripts into the API to get the system working correctly. I don't
> think this is an IETF problem but a device manufacturer problem where we
> need to encourage better ACME adoption for non-traditional servers.

Yeah, that's not an ACME problem, that's a market problem.  Mentioning
the protocol as being involved at all, when the problem is some
proprietary device and its lack of feature development, is bordering on
disingenuous -- although it does have a long and storied history in the
"stymying progress" movement (just look at IPv6 and the "my routers
don't support it!" dance).

- Matt

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