On 15/11/12 06:21, Johnathan Nightingale wrote:
We've bifurcated this thread in a way that I think is growing
unhelpful. Gavin's commenting in the d.a.f one with a clearer state
of the world, and I don't see a lot of value in having two threads in
different newsgroups for this topic.

You are quite right. I posted here before I saw Gavin's statement in the other thread; that indeed does wrap it up quite nicely.

Gerv
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