On 01/01/2013 09:04 PM, Justin Dolske wrote:
> On 12/31/12 7:26 AM, Kai Engert wrote:
> 
>> I envision a UI where users are required to approve once, whether the
>> combination of a CA and a domain is acceptable to the user.
> 
> I think this is a non-starter. It feels a lot like bouncing the hard
> work to the user, and then blaming them if they choose poorly. A core
> prerequisite for getting users to make a meaningful (let alone sound)
> decision is presenting them with the relevant info in a concise and
> understandable format -- but I can't even begin to imagine how one would
> would do that for a CA.
> 
> It's also bad for the web to be constructing new barriers to
> cross-border communication. A site in country X is going to lose
> significant traffic if foreign visitors are presented with a scary
> security dialog on their first visit. It would also seem to punish 3rd
> world countries, where there might not even be a local CA (or a
> reputable local CA).
> 
> This would also be terribly annoying UI. Users would get these popups
> frequently, and treat them as Whatever Buttons. I'd reject it on that
> basis alone.

What about a flag showing the country of the CA or a per-country trace
of the validation path in the address bar? If the user is unsure and
clicks on the flag, she can get further information, block this CA or
CA+domain and have a history of other certificates for this
Domain/CN/SubjectAlternativeNames? Otherwise one can simply ignore the
indicators. Users could get curious and start to explore the wonderful
world of PKIs. :)
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