If we do an auto-reformat I strongly recommend doing it in small
chunks. Start with a few files at a time, to minimize risk.

On Fri, May 13, 2016 at 7:21 PM, Shu-yu Guo <s...@mozilla.com> wrote:
> First, Bill, I'm flattered by your mention, thank you.
>
> I am in favor of unifying styles with Gecko, though I have a practical
> concern. I am currently in the middle of a frontend rewrite that is an
> unwieldy amount of changes. Could I request the re-style to be put off for
> a month or three until the rewrite lands?
>
> Thanks,
>
>
> On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 5:04 PM, Ehsan Akhgari <ehsan.akhg...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On 2016-05-12 9:53 AM, Nicolas B. Pierron wrote:
>> > The more we empower people for working only on their domain(s) of
>> > expertise, the less we would have need for such heroes.  Having persons
>> > responsible for the integration would help us on that.
>>
>> As someone who has worked on many parts of the browser, I cannot
>> disagree more.  Bugs just don't tend to align themselves within
>> someone's "domain expertise".  I think of bugs which seem to only
>> require me to only remember knowledge that I have accrued over the years
>> as "easy bugs", and the more I learn about different parts of the
>> browser, the more I come across issues that touch on the things that I
>> have never learned about before, or things that I haven't learned well
>> enough.  Those I call "normal bugs".
>>
>> Also bugs are only one part of our work.  I have found out that the more
>> parts of the browser I have learned about, the more I have been able to
>> work on "cross-functional" things that have benefited the browser as a
>> whole, and nowadays these sorts of stuff are commonplace projects that
>> we're working on.  Take e10s as an example, that project doesn't map at
>> all to any of the islands that we have created in our organization
>> and/or code base.  We need more and more people to be able and willing
>> to step out of the little islands, as the whole world has grown much
>> smaller now and the islands that maybe we created for good reasons back
>> in the day are really just an artifact of the past.
>>
>> It's true that a successful project requires both specialists and
>> generalists, and none of the above means that all people need to be
>> generalists.  It means that we need to see these little islands
>> (SpiderMonkey included) as what they are, remnants of the past simple
>> days where we'd get away with pretending to have we have a bunch of
>> loosely integrated components that we could make a browser out of.
>> (Anyone remember the pre-libxul days where we pretended to have
>> "libraries" and whatnot? ;-)
>>
>> The current reality how web browsers are made don't afford us treating
>> our codebase in that way any more.  To me, discussions around unifying
>> the coding style drill into the heart of this problem: we need to move
>> on from having small compartments with people painting the walls to
>> their heart's content, and treat the browser as the one unified beast
>> that it truly is.  Not because it matters how much whitespace we put
>> where, but because a unified style paints the walls in a way that urges
>> people to stop thinking in terms of small islands, and start thinking in
>> terms of Firefox as a whole.
>>
>> My CDN$0.02 with respect,
>> Ehsan
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