Thanks for pointing out 1369955, Nick. It looks a little dormant at the
moment, but that is not at all the case; It's my main focus this quarter.

I think it's worth pointing out that the features the Gecko profiler offers
- integrated C++ and JS stack sampling, markers - would be just as valuable
in the shell as they are in Gecko. I would like us to provide these
features at some level that's shared by both the shell and the browser;
tools/profiler is Gecko-specific. But I need to build up some support for
this approach first.


On Fri, Aug 11, 2017 at 11:13 AM, Nick Fitzgerald <nfitzger...@mozilla.com>
wrote:

> On Fri, Aug 11, 2017 at 2:17 AM, Nicolas B. Pierron <
> nicolas.b.pier...@mozilla.com> wrote:
>
> > Also, as much good as I think of perf-html, we should be careful of what
> > we expose in perf-html.  Remember that all users of perf-html are not Jit
> > experts, and that even exposing small information such as bailouts can
> > back-fire badly with a large number of false-positive bug reports.
> >
>
> ​This is what causes ecosystem splits where people use different tools, and
> you have to be a local wizard to even get any information out of some area
> of the code base, let alone understand it. We should be making perf
> measurements/counters/whatever more accessible to everyone (performance is
> holistic!), and then once it's accessible, we should be making it more
> understandable and doing education as well.​
>
> It should also be easy to have measurement sources off-by-default, to help
> assuage concerns like yours about information overload or performance
> overhead in the tools, but that information *must* be available when needed
> in a single place.
>
> Work is going on in https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1369955
> to
> move us towards such a world.
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