Marc,

I'm sorry that you feel this way. While I can understand your
frustration, I think your conclusion is a bit harsh and over the top.
I could now become defensive, or apologetic, or polemic, but I really
think that kind of discussion is a waste of time. Let's just look at
your actutal problems instead. From what I understand, the bug that
haunts you the most is #374918? I promise to look at your patch for
that bug soon. If there are any other showstopper bugs you need fixed
please let me know.

Hannes


On Nov 10, 9:34 pm, Marc Guillemot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi Norris, David & Hannes, (*)
>
> at the beginning of the year I've asked in this list if the project was
> half asleep. Now I rather think that its state narrows the clinical dead.
>
> It seems to me that improvements in the project occur only occasionally
> when the personal interest of some committer is involved. The number of
> open bugs without any sign of life of any Rhino committer is high.
> Particularly alarming, *even issues with patch (and unit test) are
> totally ignored*. This really gives the very displeasing impression that
> users don't matter at all. I've tried to contribute to improve the
> situation but a rhino is a heavy beast and it is not particularly
> pleasant to find (nearly) only silence.
> As Attila wrote that he would "welcome if [you] could attract new
> developers", I've mentioned my interest but except Attila, none of the
> committers even react to it. I can understand that you find that I don't
> have the skills for the project and I don't care to be refused, but I've
> found this absolute lack of reaction offending. This is something that I
> haven't seen in any other project.
>
> It is OK for me if you consider Rhino as your personal project that
> should work only for your particular usage and when you don't care
> if/how it is used elsewhere. This is rather uncommon for an open source
> project, but I can accept it. In this case please mention it explicitly
> to avoid wrong expectations.
>
> Rhino has a far longer history than most other dynamic languages on the
> JVM, nevertheless if you compare its activity with the one of projects
> like Groovy, JRuby or Jython for instance, it looks really bad for
> Rhino. It's a pity because this surely a point that users have to
> consider when they have to choose between languages.
>
> I guess that this post won't change things at all (and perhaps even
> motivate committers to create a filter that automatically deletes my
> posts ;-)) and that Rhino will continue to vegetate. I really hope to be
> wrong, but the evolution of the situation over the last months makes me
> really pessimistic.
>
> Cheers,
> Marc.
>
> (*) as far as I know, Attila is still a committer but my critics are not
> addressed to him as he is the only one who is really present in this list.
>
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