On 06/07/11 21:51 (GMT-0400) L. David Baron apparently typed: > On Wednesday 2006-07-12 00:44 +0000, Ian Hickson wrote:
>> > > http://hixie.ch/specs/css/font-size-ui/font-size-ui >> It assumes that most pages use either font-size: medium or font-size: >> small. In my experience that is a safe assumption. Using that assumption, > That *may* be true for most Web pages. But there are a *lot* of Web > pages for which that's not true, and on which the fonts therefore end up > unreadably small for many users. Just because the assumption is true > for most Web pages does not make it safe. That's the problem I'm trying > to solve. > Examples of pages for which it is not true ... > (I was hitting well over 50% of the computer hardware and consumer > electronics company sites that I tried; probably around or under 50% for > the other categories of sites I was trying.) The core issue here has been dear to my 54 year old heart and eyes for considerable years now. As a consequence, many of the above listed pages and more are on http://mrmazda.no-ip.com/shame.html in the upper left OL. ATM it has 117 sites in that list, with more below it given special treatment. For most, I have a titletip that summarizes how they've styled their text small, and how small. The few major sites I've found that are medium based are in the short list to the upper right. IOW, sites that don't respect user defaults outnumber sites that do by in excess of roughly ten to one. On the web development discussion lists I subscribe to, site checks are still routinely coming in with body and/or p set to 11px, 12px or 13px. Very few, probably less than one in twenty, are user default based, with relative sizes commonly CSS small or 80%, but not infrequently 70% or 90%. Those that provide style switchers nearly always default to and/or redefine medium to be smaller than the user's preference, in many cases making the largest choice smaller than the user preference. In my experience, sites that make most text equal to or larger than CSS small are considerably outnumbered by those that don't. The mean and median seem to be right at Owen Briggs' popular 76% http://www.thenoodleincident.com/tutorials/typography/index.html . Those using CSS small or larger are more than compensated for by the large number of those using 11px and 12px, and some even using 10px. So, I look forward to evaluating any progress on this worthy project. Both setting a minimum equal to my default and turning off styles completely in the view menu make using the web quite boring. -- "If you confess with your mouth, 'Jesus is Lord', and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved." Romans 3:23 NIV Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 Felix Miata *** http://mrmazda.no-ip.com/ _______________________________________________ dev-tech-layout mailing list [email protected] https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/dev-tech-layout

