On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 7:52 AM, Robert Kaiser <[email protected]> wrote: > Jonas Sicking schrieb: > >> Hence we have changed the plan to instead base trusted apps on a >> "packaged" >> solution. > > > It has taken me a while to get my feelings about this to a level where a > reply wouldn't be outright rude. > > That said, I still think that this basically makes those apps not be Open > Web Apps at all but "not-of-the-web packaged apps that happen to use some > web technologies".
I don't think "of the web" is a binary flag. It's a scale. For example Hixie, the HTML5 editor, has long argued that as soon as there's an installation step, it's no longer "of the web". > What's nice about that approach, of course, is that any > APIs they are using that "normal" Open Web Apps cannot use do not need to be > defined as open standards anyhow I'll let that be your opinion. I'm definitely of a different opinion. There are lots of people building app platforms. The same benefits as standards for web browsers have given applies to standards in web-apps. > as no of-the-web content can use them in > any way anyhow. Of course, it makes our system be not too different from > WebOS giving access to internals via completely proprietary APIs, but maybe > that's OK when we can at least ship a system in a timely manner. But I'm > probably drifting too far anyhow in those thoughts. I disagree. I think we are trying to create something here that is more web-like than Palm's WebOS was. I am admittedly not entirely sure of that simply because I don't know enough about Palm's WebOS. > And there are a few side-stories to this, e.g. that a number of months ago > we shot everyone down who was talking package management and said that we'd > not care about that as it wouldn't be "the web" or that the difference in > distribution between "normal" Open Web App and a "Trusted App" in terms of > this proposal is so vast that it feels almost impossible for an app to cross > that boundary at some stage (e.g. because it needs to access an API that > needs higher privs, or because the only API it used from that set actually > makes it into the set being available to others), The ability to learn is an important skill :-) > this makes it questionable > to me if those vastly different categories of apps can even be available > from the same store. I see no problem with that. Please also see some of my answers to Gerv on this topic. / Jonas _______________________________________________ dev-webapps mailing list [email protected] https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/dev-webapps
