It has been a month so I am sending a 2.1 update.
10 PRs in progress.
1,166 marked as DONE. (+36)
33 left in the TODO state. I went through these and dropped some from 2.1.
https://github.com/apache/accumulo/projects/3

3 marked as TODO as Compaction follow on work:
https://github.com/apache/accumulo/projects/13

2 in progress & 2 TODO for the Single Node ZK follow on work.
https://github.com/apache/accumulo/projects/24


On Fri, May 27, 2022 at 11:30 AM Mike Miller <mmil...@apache.org> wrote:

> Update on 2.1 progress. Come on Folks, let's Hold The Line. [1]
> 14 Pull requests in progress. (-7 digression from last week)
> 1,130 marked as DONE. (+19)
> https://github.com/apache/accumulo/projects/3
>
> 3 marked as TODO as Compaction follow on work:
> https://github.com/apache/accumulo/projects/13
>
> 2 in progress & 2 TODO for the Single Node ZK follow on work.
> https://github.com/apache/accumulo/projects/24
>
> [1]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htgr3pvBr-I
>
> On Fri, May 20, 2022 at 11:25 AM Mike Miller <mmil...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>> Update on 2.1 progress.
>> 7 Pull requests in progress.
>> 1111 marked as DONE. ( I just missed sending this at 11:11 EST)
>> https://github.com/apache/accumulo/projects/3
>>
>> 3 marked as TODO as Compaction follow on work:
>> https://github.com/apache/accumulo/projects/13
>>
>> 2 marked as TODO for the Single Node ZK follow on work.
>> https://github.com/apache/accumulo/projects/24
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, May 13, 2022 at 9:38 AM Mike Miller <mmil...@apache.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Update on 2.1 progress.
>>> 10 Pull Requests in progress.
>>> 1,097 marked as DONE.
>>> https://github.com/apache/accumulo/projects/3
>>>
>>> 3 Tickets marked as TODO as Compaction follow on work:
>>> https://github.com/apache/accumulo/projects/13
>>>
>>> Only 1 Ticket marked as TODO for the ZK follow on work. I thought there
>>> would be more here:
>>> https://github.com/apache/accumulo/projects/24
>>>
>>> On Fri, Apr 8, 2022 at 7:00 AM Mike Miller <mmil...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Update on 2.1 progress. For pull requests:
>>>> 15 currently in progress.
>>>> 32 are open as TODO. But a lot of these will get bumped to the next
>>>> version.
>>>> 1,025 DONE. Wow! Good work everyone.
>>>>
>>>> https://github.com/apache/accumulo/projects/3
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Apr 6, 2022 at 4:55 PM Christopher <ctubb...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> After some additional consideration, and getting a better
>>>>> understanding of
>>>>> how the code is expected to work from discussing it with Dave... I'm a
>>>>> little more inclined to support #2422 in 2.1, provided:
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. There's time for me to review it,
>>>>> 2. It is sufficiently decoupled from the existing code and marked
>>>>> experimental, so that we have the flexibility to alter its design, if
>>>>> it
>>>>> seems appropriate after it gets some exposure after the release,
>>>>> 3. Unit tests and integration tests are reliably passing (as stable
>>>>> as, or
>>>>> more stable than, they are currently),
>>>>> 4. No serious issues are discovered during review, and
>>>>> 5. It doesn't delay a release past early June, as I think this is a
>>>>> reasonable target date.
>>>>>
>>>>> This my wishlist before I can get behind it with a +1 for 2.1. If these
>>>>> aren't met, I do not intend to veto, but I'd be a -0 on its inclusion
>>>>> to
>>>>> 2.1. Of course, once I review it, my thoughts may change a bit.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Apr 4, 2022 at 7:07 PM Mike Miller <mmil...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> > I think I can finish the FATE refactor PR [1] for 2.1. I had been
>>>>> keeping
>>>>> > it up to date with the latest in main but stopped because it was too
>>>>> much
>>>>> > work. I was waiting until the ZK property changes are completed
>>>>> before
>>>>> > resolving the latest conflicts. I don't think it is much of a risk.
>>>>> It is
>>>>> > mostly cleanup and refactoring to remove generics from the
>>>>> serialization
>>>>> > code. It will be some work to revisit but I think the risk is pretty
>>>>> low.
>>>>> > It would allow changing the serialization, which we may be able to
>>>>> get into
>>>>> > 2.1 as well.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > [1] https://github.com/apache/accumulo/pull/2475
>>>>> >
>>>>> > On Mon, Apr 4, 2022 at 11:50 AM Keith Turner <ke...@deenlo.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> >
>>>>> > > On Mon, Apr 4, 2022 at 11:17 AM Christopher <ctubb...@apache.org>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> > > >
>>>>> > > > I haven't seen the metrics test fail very often lately. If it's
>>>>> > stable, I
>>>>> > > > don't mind removing the blocker on that issue, but I'd be
>>>>> reluctant to
>>>>> > > > close it entirely just yet, until we can verify it doesn't happen
>>>>> > > anymore.
>>>>> > > >
>>>>> > > > As for the original list of potential issues to include, I'm in
>>>>> favor
>>>>> > of
>>>>> > > > trying to get #2197 in. It was started awhile ago, is relatively
>>>>> simple
>>>>> > > and
>>>>> > > > well understood by several of us already... it just needs a bit
>>>>> of
>>>>> > > > attention to finalize reviews so it can be merged.
>>>>> > > >
>>>>> > > > However, I'm reluctant to include #2422, because I don't think
>>>>> it's
>>>>> > near
>>>>> > > > ready enough, and by the time it is, it will be very last
>>>>> minute, and I
>>>>> > > > don't want to delay 2.1 further for it. Even if it's included as
>>>>> an
>>>>> > > > experimental feature, I think it has huge potential to be
>>>>> disruptive,
>>>>> > or
>>>>> > > to
>>>>> > > > have a lot of churn by the time people actually have a chance to
>>>>> review
>>>>> > > it
>>>>> > > > thoroughly. Furthermore, I think there are possible alternatives
>>>>> (like
>>>>> > a
>>>>> > > > fully client-side implementation, based on offline scanners)
>>>>> that would
>>>>> > > > avoid the tight coupling of a new service to Accumulo's core
>>>>> code. This
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > There are some advantages to scan servers over direct file access
>>>>> to
>>>>> > > consider.  One is scalability of computation, if a web server is
>>>>> > > serving N client queries with scan servers those can potentially
>>>>> go to
>>>>> > > different scan servers.  With direct file access, all N queries and
>>>>> > > their iterator stacks would have to run in the web server.
>>>>> Another is
>>>>> > > scalability of caching/memory.  When web servers send queries to
>>>>> scan
>>>>> > > servers using a sticky algorithm for assigning tablets to groups of
>>>>> > > scan servers, it could lead to good cache utilization and sharing
>>>>> that
>>>>> > > may not be possible when running scans directly in the web server.
>>>>> So
>>>>> > > scan servers allow scaling cache and computations for queries
>>>>> > > independently of web servers in way that may not be possible with
>>>>> > > direct file access.
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > Another advantage to consider is isolation.  With direct file
>>>>> access
>>>>> > > and queries running directly in a web server, a bad query could
>>>>> bring
>>>>> > > down a web server and lots of unrelated queries.  Having a bad
>>>>> query
>>>>> > > bring down a scan server may be less disruptive.
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > > thread isn't for discussing this in depth, so we can have that
>>>>> > discussion
>>>>> > > > in a separate thread, but I'm generally opposed to including it
>>>>> this
>>>>> > late
>>>>> > > > in 2.1's development, given the timing, size and scope, tight
>>>>> coupling,
>>>>> > > and
>>>>> > > > current state.
>>>>> > > >
>>>>> > > > I don't know enough about #2475 to have a strong opinion, but it
>>>>> looks
>>>>> > > big,
>>>>> > > > and possibly high-risk, given the critical code it touches. It
>>>>> > currently
>>>>> > > > has a substantial number of conflicts with the main branch.
>>>>> However, I
>>>>> > > was
>>>>> > > > thinking that *some* minimal refactoring (like low-risk automatic
>>>>> > > > refactoring, like moving packages) could be done. So, if that's
>>>>> all
>>>>> > this
>>>>> > > > does, it might be okay. Otherwise, maybe it can be simplified?
>>>>> At the
>>>>> > > very
>>>>> > > > least, I was thinking it would be a good opportunity to move the
>>>>> > > > `org.apache.accumulo.fate` packages into an appropriate
>>>>> > > > `org.apache.accumulo.core` parent package (some would go to
>>>>> > > o.a.a.core.fate
>>>>> > > > and others might go to o.a.a.core.util or similar) to keep the
>>>>> package
>>>>> > > > namespaces standardized, which is helpful to avoid naming
>>>>> collisions
>>>>> > and
>>>>> > > > jar sealing issues, as well as for less complicated jigsaw module
>>>>> > > > definitions in future. Since 2.1 FaTE is already incompatible
>>>>> with
>>>>> > prior
>>>>> > > > versions, a rename at this time would be less disruptive.
>>>>> > > >
>>>>> > > > Another task I had wanted to be done for 2.1, before I got
>>>>> distracted
>>>>> > > > fixing test failures during and after Christmas and trying to
>>>>> work
>>>>> > > through
>>>>> > > > the singleton manager zookeeper stuff to see what we could
>>>>> simplify.
>>>>> > > What I
>>>>> > > > had wanted done was to standardize the way we pass table
>>>>> identifiers
>>>>> > > (name,
>>>>> > > > IDs) across the RPC layer, since we currently do that
>>>>> inconsistently. I
>>>>> > > > don't remember if there's an existing ticket open for it, but I
>>>>> have a
>>>>> > > > working branch I had started working out of for it before
>>>>> Christmas.
>>>>> > It's
>>>>> > > > relatively simple work, and would set us up for some much better
>>>>> APIs
>>>>> > > going
>>>>> > > > forward, as well as help with logging information about table
>>>>> actions.
>>>>> > If
>>>>> > > > necessary, it could be bumped to a future version, but then we'd
>>>>> have
>>>>> > > more
>>>>> > > > churn in the thrift layer. So, I'd prefer to get it for 2.1 to
>>>>> avoid
>>>>> > > that.
>>>>> > > >
>>>>> > > > As for planning, I was thinking early May for a code freeze
>>>>> (except bug
>>>>> > > > fixes and small improvements found during testing), so we can
>>>>> try to
>>>>> > > > release towards the end of May/early June. If we go with that
>>>>> timeline,
>>>>> > > > that's not a lot of time to wrap up features and have time for
>>>>> > > > review/testing, so we may need to be selective about what we
>>>>> hold off
>>>>> > > until
>>>>> > > > the next version, unless we want to further delay 2.1.
>>>>> > > >
>>>>> > > >
>>>>> > > > On Mon, Apr 4, 2022 at 9:13 AM Dave Marion <dmario...@gmail.com>
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>> > > >
>>>>> > > > > I think [3] is OBE and can be closed.
>>>>> > > > >
>>>>> > > > > On Mon, Apr 4, 2022 at 9:11 AM Mike Miller <mmil...@apache.org
>>>>> >
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>> > > > >
>>>>> > > > > > Yes I agree, that was the goal of this email thread. I found
>>>>> a few
>>>>> > > more
>>>>> > > > > > tickets that should be addressed for the next release.
>>>>> > > > > >
>>>>> > > > > > Ivan - There was some work done on this PR but it has been
>>>>> some
>>>>> > > time. Do
>>>>> > > > > > you want to take a look at it? Implement a Thread limit. [1]
>>>>> > > > > > Keith T - I think we should get this one merged to fix that
>>>>> > > consistency
>>>>> > > > > > check bug I found. It looks like it is finished. [2]
>>>>> > > > > > Dave & Dom - Were you guys able to figure out a fix for the
>>>>> new
>>>>> > > external
>>>>> > > > > > compaction metrics test? [3]
>>>>> > > > > >
>>>>> > > > > > FYI we have 6 blockers for 2.1:
>>>>> > > > > > https://github.com/apache/accumulo/labels/blocker
>>>>> > > > > >
>>>>> > > > > > This is almost definitely going into 2.1 [4]. Thanks Jeff!
>>>>> > > > > >
>>>>> > > > > > [1] https://github.com/apache/accumulo/pull/1487
>>>>> > > > > > [2] https://github.com/apache/accumulo/pull/2574
>>>>> > > > > > [3] https://github.com/apache/accumulo/issues/2406
>>>>> > > > > > [4] https://github.com/apache/accumulo/pull/2215
>>>>> > > > > >
>>>>> > > > > > On Fri, Apr 1, 2022 at 2:21 PM Dave Marion <
>>>>> dmario...@gmail.com>
>>>>> > > wrote:
>>>>> > > > > >
>>>>> > > > > > > I think it would be useful to do some release planning so
>>>>> that we
>>>>> > > know
>>>>> > > > > > what
>>>>> > > > > > > features we are working towards and in which release they
>>>>> will be
>>>>> > > in.
>>>>> > > > > > This
>>>>> > > > > > > would be helpful for determining what existing PRs need to
>>>>> make
>>>>> > it
>>>>> > > into
>>>>> > > > > > > 2.1.0. 2.1.0 is the LTM release, so patches for existing
>>>>> features
>>>>> > > will
>>>>> > > > > be
>>>>> > > > > > > backported (2.1.1, 2.1.2, 2.1.3, etc.) However, as defined
>>>>> in
>>>>> > [1],
>>>>> > > > > > features
>>>>> > > > > > > that don't make it into 2.1.0 will go into the next non-LTM
>>>>> > release
>>>>> > > > > > (2.2.0)
>>>>> > > > > > > and any patches to bugs in those features will go into the
>>>>> next
>>>>> > > non-LTM
>>>>> > > > > > > release after that (2.3.0).
>>>>> > > > > > >
>>>>> > > > > > > I'm not trying to hold up the 2.1.0 release by suggesting
>>>>> that we
>>>>> > > > > perform
>>>>> > > > > > > this activity. I'm just asking what the future holds, even
>>>>> if
>>>>> > it's
>>>>> > > just
>>>>> > > > > > one
>>>>> > > > > > > feature in the next non-LTM release. My concern is that
>>>>> the next
>>>>> > > > > release
>>>>> > > > > > > will be open-ended and anything not included in 2.1.0
>>>>> might not
>>>>> > > get put
>>>>> > > > > > > into a release for a very long time.
>>>>> > > > > > >
>>>>> > > > > > > [1]
>>>>> https://accumulo.apache.org/contributor/versioning.html#LTM
>>>>> > > > > > >
>>>>> > > > > > >
>>>>> > > > > > > On Thu, Mar 31, 2022 at 11:43 AM Mike Miller <
>>>>> mmil...@apache.org
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > > > wrote:
>>>>> > > > > > >
>>>>> > > > > > > > Starting an email chain of things that folks want to
>>>>> finish for
>>>>> > > 2.1.
>>>>> > > > > > Here
>>>>> > > > > > > > is what we currently have in the works that are most
>>>>> likely
>>>>> > going
>>>>> > > > > into
>>>>> > > > > > > 2.1:
>>>>> > > > > > > > https://github.com/apache/accumulo/pull/2569
>>>>> > > > > > > > https://github.com/apache/accumulo/pull/2600
>>>>> > > > > > > > https://github.com/apache/accumulo/pull/2293
>>>>> > > > > > > >
>>>>> > > > > > > > Some things that may go into 2.1:
>>>>> > > > > > > > https://github.com/apache/accumulo/pull/2422
>>>>> > > > > > > > https://github.com/apache/accumulo/pull/2475
>>>>> > > > > > > > https://github.com/apache/accumulo/pull/2197
>>>>> > > > > > > >
>>>>> > > > > > > > I created a Project for follow on work to the ZK property
>>>>> > > change. I
>>>>> > > > > was
>>>>> > > > > > > > planning on putting tasks in there that we want to
>>>>> complete for
>>>>> > > 2.1.
>>>>> > > > > > But
>>>>> > > > > > > we
>>>>> > > > > > > > could also use it for post 2.1 work.
>>>>> > > > > > > > https://github.com/apache/accumulo/projects/24
>>>>> > > > > > > > https://github.com/apache/accumulo/issues/2469
>>>>> > > > > > > >
>>>>> > > > > > > > FYI a draft copy of the release notes has already been
>>>>> on the
>>>>> > > > > website:
>>>>> > > > > > > > https://accumulo.apache.org/release/accumulo-2.1.0/
>>>>> > > > > > > >
>>>>> > > > > > > > This may be a good thread to discuss whether or not a
>>>>> task
>>>>> > needs
>>>>> > > to
>>>>> > > > > go
>>>>> > > > > > > into
>>>>> > > > > > > > 2.1 or should wait for the next version. We currently
>>>>> have 32
>>>>> > > open
>>>>> > > > > pull
>>>>> > > > > > > > requests so please email me if there is one that you
>>>>> would like
>>>>> > > > > > > prioritized
>>>>> > > > > > > > for 2.1.
>>>>> > > > > > > >
>>>>> > > > > > >
>>>>> > > > > >
>>>>> > > > >
>>>>> > >
>>>>> >
>>>>>
>>>>

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