David,

you might like to try enabling the optimizeDispatch property on the Destination policy map - see http://activemq.apache.org/configure-version-5-brokers.html from trunk, if you are using non-persistent messages

cheers,

Rob
On 6 Mar 2008, at 22:48, David Sitsky wrote:

I am sure it will be application-dependent, so making it a policy makes a lot of sense. For my application, I only have a pending size of 1 since each work item's processing requirements can vary tremendously.

Just curious - what kind of benchmarks did you run this against? I'm curious to know what kind of performance degregation you saw.. it would be interesting to understand why. I am using non- persistent messaging, so perhaps that could make a difference, since I am only paging a small number of messages in at a time.

Cheers,
David

Rob Davies wrote:
Hi David,
Yes - actually - I tried it a few days ago. I haven't committed it because message throughput is generally lower. I will look at making it optional via a destination policy
cheers,
Rob
On 6 Mar 2008, at 05:54, David Sitsky wrote:
Hi Rob,

I know its been a couple of weeks. I've been using my changes for a while and I see nice CPU and memory usage on the broker, and good messaging performance for my application. Have you had a chance to try it out?

Cheers,
David

Rob Davies wrote:
Hi David,
thanks for the great feedback - will try your patch and see how it works!
cheers,
Rob
On 20 Feb 2008, at 06:31, David Sitsky wrote:
Hi Rob,

I like the new changes, but with the changes as they are, for my application for one of my benchmarks, it takes twice as long to complete.

I believe the culprit for this is that when the new code can't find a consumer which is not full, the broker chooses the consumer with the lowest dispatch queue size.

In my application, since I have a prefetch size of 1, and have longish-running transactions, the dispatch queue size is not indicative of the current load for that consumer. As a result, I think this is what is responsible for poor load-balancing in my case.

For applications which commit() after each processed message, I am sure this wouldn't be the case. In some ways, reverting to the old behaviour of adding the pending message to all consumers might lead to better load balancing with this code.

However - I think it is better if the consumers can decide when they want more messages rather than the broker pushing messages at them? I've attached a patch which demonstrates this. When LAZY_DISPATCH is set to true (set via a system property for now for testing purposes) this changes the behaviour slightly.

The basic idea is pageInMessages() only pages in the minimum number of messages that can be dispatched immediately to non- full consumers. Whenever a consumer acks a message, which updates its prefetch size, we make sure Queue.wakeup() is called so that the consumer will receive new messages.

With this change in effect - I see slightly faster or almost the same times with the previous benchmark. However memory usage on the broker is far better, as the pending queues for each consumer is either 0 or very small.

What do you think?  I guess there are better ways of doing this.

I am doing a large overnight run with 16 consumers, so we'll see how the performance goes.

You'll also notice in the patch, that in Queue.addSubscriber(), I thought there didn't seem to be any need for adding a message to a new consumer if the message has already been locked by another consumer?

Cheers,
David

Rob Davies wrote:
Hi David,
please let us know if these changes helps/hinders your app!
cheers,
Rob
On 19 Feb 2008, at 08:32, David Sitsky wrote:
If what I said above is true, then the immediately above if statement needs to be moved outside its enclosing if - otherwise it only gets executed when targets != null. We'd want this to execute if we found a matching target wouldn't we?
Don't think so? We only want the message going to one subscription? I may have misunderstood what you mean!
Yes - ignore what I said, I had my wires crossed.

Cheers,
David



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@@ -160,6 +160,8 @@
public void acknowledge(final ConnectionContext context,final MessageAck ack) throws Exception {
      // Handle the standard acknowledgment case.
      boolean callDispatchMatched = false;
+    Queue queue = null;
+           synchronized(dispatchLock) {
          if (ack.isStandardAck()) {
// Acknowledge all dispatched messages up till the message id of
@@ -223,8 +225,12 @@
                              prefetchExtension = Math.max(0,
prefetchExtension - (index + 1));
                          }
+                if (queue == null)
+                {
+                queue = (Queue)node.getRegionDestination();
+                }
                          callDispatchMatched = true;
-                            break;
+                break;
                      }
                  }
              }
@@ -253,6 +259,10 @@
if (ack.getLastMessageId().equals(node.getMessageId())) { prefetchExtension = Math.max(prefetchExtension,
                              index + 1);
+                        if (queue == null)
+                        {
+ queue = (Queue)node.getRegionDestination();
+                        }
                      callDispatchMatched = true;
                      break;
                  }
@@ -279,6 +289,10 @@
                  if (inAckRange) {
                      node.incrementRedeliveryCounter();
if (ack.getLastMessageId().equals(messageId)) {
+                if (queue == null)
+                {
+                queue = (Queue)node.getRegionDestination();
+                }
                          callDispatchMatched = true;
                          break;
                      }
@@ -320,6 +334,10 @@
if (ack.getLastMessageId().equals(messageId)) { prefetchExtension = Math.max(0, prefetchExtension
                                  - (index + 1));
+                if (queue == null)
+                {
+                queue = (Queue)node.getRegionDestination();
+                }
                          callDispatchMatched = true;
                          break;
                      }
@@ -336,6 +354,9 @@
          }
      }
      if (callDispatchMatched) {
+        if (Queue.LAZY_DISPATCH) {
+        queue.wakeup();
+        }
          dispatchPending();
      } else {
          if (isSlave()) {
Index: activemq-core/src/main/java/org/apache/activemq/broker/ region/Queue.java = ================================================================== --- activemq-core/src/main/java/org/apache/activemq/broker/ region/Queue.java (revision 628917) +++ activemq-core/src/main/java/org/apache/activemq/broker/ region/Queue.java (working copy)
@@ -75,6 +75,8 @@
* @version $Revision: 1.28 $
*/
public class Queue extends BaseDestination implements Task {
+    public static final boolean LAZY_DISPATCH =
+ Boolean .parseBoolean(System.getProperty("activemq.lazy.dispatch", "true"));
  private final Log log;
private final List<Subscription> consumers = new ArrayList<Subscription>(50);
  private PendingMessageCursor messages;
@@ -212,12 +214,12 @@
          synchronized (pagedInMessages) {
              // Add all the matching messages in the queue to the
              // subscription.
-
for (Iterator<MessageReference> i = pagedInMessages.values()
                      .iterator(); i.hasNext();) {
QueueMessageReference node = (QueueMessageReference) i
                          .next();
- if (!node.isDropped() && !node.isAcked() && (!node.isDropped() ||sub.getConsumerInfo().isBrowser())) { + if ((!node.isDropped() || sub.getConsumerInfo().isBrowser()) && !node.isAcked() &&
+            node.getLockOwner() == null) {
                      msgContext.setMessageReference(node);
                      if (sub.matches(node, msgContext)) {
                          sub.add(node);
@@ -940,7 +945,11 @@
      dispatchLock.lock();
      try{

- final int toPageIn = getMaxPageSize() - pagedInMessages.size(); + int toPageIn = getMaxPageSize() - pagedInMessages.size();
+        if (LAZY_DISPATCH) {
+ // Only page in the minimum number of messages which can be dispatched immediately. + toPageIn = Math.min(getConsumerMessageCountBeforeFull(), toPageIn);
+        }
          if ((force || !consumers.isEmpty()) && toPageIn > 0) {
              messages.setMaxBatchSize(toPageIn);
              int count = 0;
@@ -976,12 +985,25 @@
      }
      return result;
  }
+
+ private int getConsumerMessageCountBeforeFull() throws Exception {
+    int total = 0;
+        synchronized (consumers) {
+            for (Subscription s : consumers) {
+        if (s instanceof PrefetchSubscription) {
+            total += ((PrefetchSubscription)s).countBeforeFull();
+        }
+        }
+    }
+    return total;
+    }

private void doDispatch(List<MessageReference> list) throws Exception {

      if (list != null) {
          synchronized (consumers) {
              for (MessageReference node : list) {
+
                  Subscription target = null;
                  List<Subscription> targets = null;
                  for (Subscription s : consumers) {


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