Hi Guys,

First let me introduce myself. My name is Chris Mattmann and I'm
currently a member of the Apache board. I took a look at the goings-on
related to the recent change in the web console, where now it appears
the first link on a standard deployment of ActiveMQ and its web console
points to a web console from hawtio.

I don't really have any skin in the game on which company built what, or
who's is better, etc. I have been around the ASF for nearly a decade and
have been through the trials by fire of Lucene, Hadoop, and a number of
the ASF's largest projects.

I *do* however have a problem that the ActiveMQ PMC now is stewarded a
product, *Apache ActiveMQ* wherein which that product ships with a web
console that includes a first link to what appears to me at least to be
a specific company's product *hawtio web console*.

With my Director hat on -- this is unacceptable and needs to be fixed.
So let's discuss how this came about, and what can be done to fix it.
I don't have time and haven't read through all the prior history and
threads, but I'm happy to read through links folks have for me to check
out,
and also happy to help lend a hand towards addressing this. It can be
addressed
in various ways, so let's talk about it.

Cheers,
Chris 


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