I think that a separate hornetQ project is a clear declaration that activemq 
has no long term future.   My understanding of the situation is quite limited, 
but since there's already been one attempt to replace the broker (apollo) and 
no attempt to modernize the existing broker, I'd guess that it is not feasible. 
After apollo, I haven't seen the existing amq community start a new broker 
project inside activemq, it's been maybe a couple years, so I expect it won't 
happen.  so, sure hornetQ could be a different project, mine some external code 
from amq, and wait for amq to die.  As I tried to indicate before, the only 
real way forward I see is for the existing amq community to get behind making 
the former hornetQ codebase a real amq 5 replacement.  What if you put the same 
amount of energy into adapting some amq code to hornetQ as you do objecting to 
it's presence?    I don't understand why everyone isn't saying, "wow, someone 
just gave us a many-dev-years of code advanced broker, look at all the work I 
don't have to do!!, what can I do to help take advantage of it?"

thanks
david jencks

On Mar 24, 2015, at 12:36 PM, artnaseef <[email protected]> wrote:

> What will it take for HornetQ to become ActiveMQ-6?  That question keeps
> coming to mind.
> 
> At first, I was looking at the question strictly from a technical
> perspective.  But considering the community and Apache involvement, the
> answer to that question becomes more complex.
> 
> Naming releases of HornetQ at activemq-6.0.0-M1 presumes that HornetQ will
> succeed to replace ActiveMQ, and acts as a warning to all activemq users
> that the change is coming.  But what if it does not succeed?  Either on
> technical merits or on building community?
> 
> The right path from the beginning has always been the incubator path.  Let
> HornetQ prove itself as an Apache project and viable alternative to ActiveMQ
> without any attempt at using the ActiveMQ brand.
> 
> Since HornetQ has been donated into ActiveMQ, we could certainly look to
> take some of the code from HornetQ and merge it into the existing ActiveMQ
> code base.
> 
> No matter how we move forward, the issue of building community and HornetQ
> proving itself is the same.  So, the question then becomes - what benefit is
> there to ActiveMQ and the ActiveMQ community?  If we cannot enumerate a
> valid benefit for the community, then it does not belong there.
> 
> 
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