On 06/09/2015 08:22 PM, Daniel Kulp wrote:
> I guess if it was up to me to actually write a formal doc describing the 
> process it would go something like:
>
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> ActiveMQ uses a Commit-Then-Review process for getting changes contributed to 
> the development branches.   In general, this means the ActiveMQ committers 
> are free to directly commit their own work to master and push those changes 
> to the canonical repository at Apache.   However, the expectation is that the 
> developer has made a good effort to test their changes and is reasonably 
> confident that the changes that are being committed will not “break the 
> build.”
>
> What does it mean to be reasonably confident?  That may depend on the 
> developer.  If the developer has run the same maven commands that the CI 
> builds are running, they can likely be reasonably confident.   However, if 
> the changes are significant, touches a wide area of code, or even if the 
> developer just wants a second opinion, they are encouraged to engage other 
> members of the community to obtain an additional review prior to commit.   
> This can easily be done via a pull request on github, a patch file attached 
> to an email or JIRA, committed to a branch in the Apache git repo, etc…  
> There are a variety of options open to them.    Having additional eyes 
> looking at significant changes prior to committing to the main development 
> branches is definitely encouraged if it helps obtain the “reasonable 
> confidence” that the build is not broken and code quality has not decreased.  
> We also have automatic builds setup to test github pull requests in advance 
> to help establish a good level of confidence in the build.
>
> However, “things happen”.   We’re all human.   In the case where the build 
> does break, the expectation is that the developer will make a best effort to 
> get the builds fixed in a reasonable amount of time.    If it cannot be fixed 
> in a reasonable amount of time, the commit can be reverted and re-reviewed. 
>
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>
> Everyone:  does that about cover it?    Did I miss anything?    The github 
> pull requests and gui tools are definitely a good tool chain in certain cases 
> and I would still encourage those folks that find value in them to continue 
> using them.   However, they cannot be “required”.
>
>
> Dan
>
I think that captures it quite nicely, thanks Dan!

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>> On Jun 9, 2015, at 7:57 PM, Clebert Suconic <[email protected]> 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> +1 to stay with the existing CTR practice that is well established in the
>>> ActiveMQ community. That's why committership is granted. It's a level of
>>> trust and confidence that you don't make low hanging fruit errors.
>> I actually screw up all the time ;) But I rather make eventual
>> mistakes than not do something :)
>>
>> Anyways... lets keep the pull requests as a tool. For instance I just
>> prevented an issue because of a PR Build
>>
>> https://builds.apache.org/job/ActiveMQ-Artemis-PR-Build/418/
>> https://github.com/apache/activemq-artemis/pull/22
>>
>> But I don't want to talk about the issue itself on this Thread... This
>> is a meta discussion.. I will talk about the issue itself on another
>> post I'm about to make


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