I'd like to point out that HawtIO 2.0 is different from 1.x. Is been modularized using bower components and any project can build a customized HawtIO based console very easily with user specified plugins and branding. Also please note, HawtIO is not a Red Hat product, it's an open source project which Red Hat heavily contributes to.
On Mon, Oct 3, 2016 at 11:14 AM, Clebert Suconic <[email protected]> wrote: > @Daniel +1... I share the same view... Lets just move forward.. and > forget the past thread. > > @Christopher Shannon.. in regard to your other email.. +1 > > On Fri, Sep 30, 2016 at 2:51 PM, Daniel Kulp <[email protected]> wrote: > > > >> On Sep 30, 2016, at 2:31 PM, Clebert Suconic <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> so... IMO, the Web console needs to look an apache product.. > >> regardless of what components you use. if someone can provide a clean > >> and nice implementation.. using whatever frameworks or components that > >> are apache (or compatible) license, I think that's a reasonable > >> consideration. > > > > It’s a bit more than that…. It cannot be used to promote other 3rd > party things. Thus, other than a small “powered by” logo or similar in a > non-prominant place, no other links out. Also, all the > non-ActiveMQ-essential things need to be able to be stripped out. > > > > Second, all the code related to interfacing and interacting with > ActiveMQ/Artemis needs to be part of the ActiveMQ community. This goes > beyond branding. Using the current ActiveMQ “plugin" from Hawt io is NOT > ok unless all of that can be moved into the Apache community (which the > developers did NOT want to do last time this was discussed). Basically, > how ActiveMQ is presented to the user MUST be completely under the control > of the ActiveMQ community, not some other community. > > > > Dan > > > > > > > >> > >> And with git / github, we can first propose how it will look like, and > >> merge when it's pretty and ready. That's also a difference from 2 or 3 > >> years ago when these discussions were taking place, where even if git > >> was being used the workflow was pretty much the same svn style. > >> > >> I won't be able myself to work on this for a few weeks as I am working > >> on a few improvements around replication, that I want to do for 1.5.0. > >> but I think this would open the possibility of someone else looking > >> into that.. both from AMQ5 and/or Artemis perspective. > >> > >> so if you (anyone) start working around this give us a sign here, so > >> there wouldn't be two people working on the same task. > >> > >> > >> A request I make is.. lets start fresh and do something cool and > nice... ;) > >> > >> On Fri, Sep 30, 2016 at 11:14 AM, jgenender <[email protected]> > wrote: > >>> clebertsuconic wrote > >>>> I don't want to read that discussion again.. but from what I remember > >>>> of what I once read, and after I talked to some guys in person, the > >>>> issue was where the component would live.. like the plugin being > >>>> outside of AMQ5 code. > >>>> > >>>> I believe that if we consumed hawt-io as a component (just like we > >>>> consume Jetty), and have the plugins, checkstyles, apache branding, > >>>> activemq5 and Artemis brand on the main repo, it shouldn't be an > >>>> issue. > >>> > >>> I wouldn't speculate. I wouldn't even attempt it unless you have > examined > >>> the issues and do a 5 minute perusal on the thread. I won't argue > what it > >>> was because I, and some other non-Red Hat folks were central to that > >>> discussion. > >>> > >>> My recommendation... don't rehash that. Look at the primary problems > were > >>> (tl;dr; I mentioned them previously). Come up with a reasonable > community > >>> based solution to the issues and present them. > >>> > >>> That said, I think branding would help significantly as long as any > other > >>> concerns are resolved. I do know that templating it was certainly one > of > >>> the offered solutions. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> -- > >>> View this message in context: http://activemq.2283324.n4. > nabble.com/DISCUSS-Removing-the-Web-Console-tp4717136p4717302.html > >>> Sent from the ActiveMQ - Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Clebert Suconic > > > > -- > > Daniel Kulp > > [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> - http://dankulp.com/blog < > http://dankulp.com/blog> > > Talend Community Coder - http://coders.talend.com < > http://coders.talend.com/> > > > > -- > Clebert Suconic > -- Hiram Chirino Engineering | Red Hat, Inc. [email protected] | fusesource.com | redhat.com skype: hiramchirino | twitter: @hiramchirino
