Re black and white looking at your gist, that's specific to Java serialisation, 
I don't think that should be in the interface like it is maybe a more generic 
configure(properties) as for other impls they may need other config options (as 
in Avro would need to configure schema reg url). 

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> On 2 Jun 2017, at 21:06, Clebert Suconic <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> What about a mixed approach.
> 
> We make Artemis as a plugin. And you use it as plug on anywhere else.
> 
> I like the plugin approach as it would clean up the code on black and white
> list anyways.
> 
> Then the plug in implementation for avro could live on this new Repo.
> 
> If at a later point u need to use a repo that doesn't support the plug in
> approach you use the facade doing the proxy ?
> 
> 
> Perhaps we could talk over IRC next week.  I'm taking Monday of. So I would
> be available Tuesday.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Fri, Jun 2, 2017 at 3:42 PM Michael André Pearce <
> [email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> I'd rather go with something more people are happy with (or at least a
>> little more happier about)
>> 
>> I'm not 100% sure if I have fully read the feelings right, but it seems
>> Tim is a little more happy with maybe us making some jms extension area
>> that we put this and move the connection pool factory to also, as plug-on
>> rather than as plug-in. And seems this is not suited for camel to own but
>> maybe activemq, but as maybe a sub project rather than a module of
>> activemq5, or a module of artemis.
>> 
>> For me this solution does work, and allows it to work for any jms impl,
>> e.g. It would be fairly important to be able to use qpid jms client and
>> artemis client with it if using components in some places like qpid router,
>> meaning you have to use qpid jms.
>> 
>> I agree it would be much better if there was a chance to have it in a
>> 2.0.2 jms spec.
>> 
>> Are you against this idea? @clebert? @tim have I understood your feelings
>> correctly?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On 2 Jun 2017, at 20:29, Clebert Suconic <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> On Fri, Jun 2, 2017 at 3:22 PM, Michael André Pearce
>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> I agree i much the original proposal to make it a plugin interface, but
>> would want also buy-in on the qpid jms client also.
>>> 
>>> I'm just proposing one thing at the time.
>>> 
>>> After everything is cleared in JMS terms, we can verify what to do next.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> If the JSR was still alive.. I would propose this as an addition on the
>> JSR.
>> 
> -- 
> Clebert Suconic

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