Ignore the last comment, its not true, i just can’t read a simple log line. but 
alas still stumped.

> On 11 Jul 2017, at 19:47, Michael André Pearce <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> 
> Just a little more digging, it seems when two separate topic subscriptions 
> are made, one of the queues is made durable, and the other is not, even so 
> both should be not durable, seems to occur on both core and amqp client.
> No idea how this could be still, any pointers of code to check or put 
> breakpoints in much appreciated.
> 
>> On 11 Jul 2017, at 18:05, Michael André Pearce <[email protected]> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> We have been connecting both amqp (jms) and core clients connected to the 
>> address.
>> 
>> We have shutdown all, yet an amount of queues remain. We have checked the 
>> connected consumers = 0 and the queues that remain are def non durables. 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On 11 Jul 2017, at 17:28, Andy Taylor <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Depends on the protocol Michael, which client are you using when you see
>>> this occur?
>>> 
>>> On 11 July 2017 at 16:35, Michael André Pearce <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi All,
>>>> 
>>>> I'm trying to find the logic that cleans up non durable queues (jms topic
>>>> subscription).
>>>> 
>>>> I can find logic with regards to auto created and auto delete where
>>>> message count == 0.
>>>> 
>>>> But nothing with regards to specific logic to clear up non durables.
>>>> 
>>>> Reason I'm asking is we are seeing non durable queues hang about after the
>>>> jms topic subscriber is gone.
>>>> 
>>>> Cheers
>>>> Mike
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
> 

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