I agree with Jeff here. 



Its very similar story with NMS as i noted, its stable api and the open wire 
implementation is well used. 




There has been activity even in the amqp impl last year as noted, yes it didnt 
release but it shows activity and want. 




Like wise there are other projects active and implementing their own impl based 
on the nms api as i noted. 




I agree we can clean up a little with the projects never released and literally 
no activity at all in past few yars, but i think its key to keep api 
(released), openwire (released) and amqp (activity in dev/user lists) ones in 
the nms space.


 






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On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 11:27 PM +0000, "jgenender" <jgenen...@apache.org> 
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Thanks for the explanation.

I think I mentioned Jamie Goodyear had showed interest to help with JIRAs
and know there are others who will help when important JIRAs pop up.  I
think those APIs are simple clients that probably don’t require a lot of
loving care and are relatively stable.  I don’t think stackoverflow is
necessarily a good indicator of its use.  They are pretty simple to utilize. 
A better indicator of user base is number of downloads.  But I don’t know if
we track that.  Also remember these are not major components of AMQ.  They
are just connectors so I don’t expect heavy activity.

Also, if there truly are openwire alternatives, then I get your point.  But
STOMP and AMQP are not openwire.

I would agree that there is not likely to be much additional enhancements to
them as they do what they do.  But I do see serious bugs getting fixed by
some of the committers.  I think the release of them needs to be fixed and
this came up earlier on CMS, but there was no resolution.  I do know Jamie
wanted and offered to fix it.




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