yep, that is better. naming is very hard

On Fri, 9 Oct 2020 at 15:49, Clebert Suconic <[email protected]>
wrote:

> I can definitely rename the interface.
>
> I did not want the interface exposed to users outside of the context
> of the mirroring I'm doing here. for other usages users can get what
> they want from broker plugins.
>
>
> I will rename this as Mirror
>
>
> and then I can have a MirrorSource and MirrorTarget
>
>
> WDYT?
>
> On Thu, Oct 8, 2020 at 8:21 AM Gary Tully <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Clebert, this is a great piece of work.
> >
> > One thing popped out for me from the PR, the remoteControl interface.
> >
> > I know naming is hard :-). That name to me means something is controlling
> > from afar. But I think it is really a set of change events that a broker
> > can emit. If I understand correctly, a ``mirror`` AMQP outbound
> connection
> > is turning those events/commands into amqp messages on an address that a
> > receiver is using to replicate a selective state.
> > Another listener could use it for generating notifications or audits?
> >
> > Should it be called ChangeEvents? or ChangeActions - because there are
> > operations for each event.
> >
> > further on that, if a mirror is making a broker replica, I could imagine
> a
> > change event for a new security role or for a role deletion event. Does
> > this sort of thing fit in with your idea of a RemoteControl?
> >
> > I guess I am getting ahead a little, as in all events that change a
> broker
> > are potentially relevant to a mirror, and if some extra plugins are in
> > play, maybe some extra events need to get replicated.
> >
> > In other words, this is a concrete specific implementation of a more
> > general concept, change data capture.  To make it extensible would
> require
> > being able to publish events and on the receiver end, find a handler or
> > ignore events that are unrecognised. It would need some conventions etc.
> >
> > In any event, something like that is now possible :-)
> >
> > /gary
> >
> > On Wed, 7 Oct 2020 at 23:14, Clebert Suconic <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > sorry for the SPAM: I meant to add the link:
> > >
> > > https://github.com/apache/activemq-artemis/pull/3294
> > >
> > > On Wed, Oct 7, 2020 at 4:17 PM Clebert Suconic
> > > <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I have posted a Pull Request.. .(for review only at this time)
> > > >
> > > > I would appreciate reviews.
> > > >
> > > > I'm fixing some issues, adding docs.. but the overall is ready for
> > > > code review already.
> > > >
> > > > Thank you
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Oct 1, 2020 at 9:55 AM Clebert Suconic
> > > > <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > I am working on new features in the AMQP Protocol Handler, and I
> would
> > > > > like to explain here what I am doing:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I needed to go beyond what we do now with AMQP, and use it connect
> > > > > brokers, and eventually with qpid-dispatch for more elaborate
> > > > > networking on datacenters.
> > > > >
> > > > > First part:
> > > > >
> > > > > The first issue I had while implementing something protocol
> specific
> > > > > (other than Core) was to use the classes within the protocol
> package.
> > > > > As the broker is agnostic to the protocols (exception is core
> ATM), I
> > > > > needed the whole initialization to take place within
> > > > > artemis-amqp-protocol.
> > > > >
> > > > > To get around that I added what I called ProtocolServices. So when
> you
> > > > > implement a protocol service the interface will be called within
> > > > > broker start.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Second part:
> > > > >
> > > > > As the broker is now taking action on connecting to other brokers
> (or
> > > > > other AMQP servers), I needed to change out Netty bootstrapping to
> > > > > allow outgoing connections with a given protocol. With that I'm
> > > > > inverting everything we had for server, and I am abusing the power
> of
> > > > > AMQP here. Since AMQP is totally symmetrical I can now connect
> brokers
> > > > > directly. So, a Consumer on the broker and be connected directly
> to a
> > > > > producer on another broker. Acting like a bridge, but way more
> > > > > lightweight.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Third part:
> > > > >
> > > > > I am using that for replicas. At the moment these replicas will not
> > > > > sync the client, but they are working quite nicely. and allowing
> > > > > multiple replicas.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > The configuration will take part as the following.
> > > > >
> > > > > You define amqp connections with their URL and their reconnecting
> > > > > information, for each connection you can define:
> > > > >
> > > > > sender <matching addresses>: All addresses matching will have a
> > > > > transfer sender. This will act like a push bridge
> > > > > receiver < matching addresses>: All matching addresses on this
> broker
> > > > > will create a consumer pulling messages. This will act like a pull
> > > > > bridge
> > > > > peer <matching addresses>: This will create both ways, but you can
> > > > > only use this towards a special server that knows how to handle
> this.
> > > > > (e.g. qpid-dispatch). otherwise you get ping pongs on transfers
> > > > > copy <matching addresses> : This will create a replica, without
> > > > > sending the acks, (You will be responsible to consume the messages
> > > > > yourself at the target broker)
> > > > > replica <matching addresses>: Just like copy, but acks are sent and
> > > > > messages removed upong ack (or accept)
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > This is an example of the configuration:
> > > > >
> > > > > <amqp-connections>
> > > > >   <!-- the connection towards another broker -->
> > > > >    <amqp-connection uri="tcp://otherNode:5671" name="myconnection"
> > > > > retry-interval="333" reconnect-attempts="33">
> > > > >       <sender match="TEST-SENDER" />
> > > > >       <receiver match="TEST-RECEIVER" />
> > > > >       <peer match="TEST-PEER"/>
> > > > >       <copy match="TEST-COPY"/>
> > > > >       <replica match="TEST-REPLICA"/>
> > > > >    </amqp-connection>
> > > > > </amqp-connections>
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > so far these are being worked on a my github fork/ but it's not
> really
> > > > > meant for a review at this point as I have some cleanup to do (some
> > > > > logging messages and stuff I have to remove).
> > > > >
> > > > > I am getting ready to send a Pull Request early next week. but you
> > > > > have the concepts here already to review them.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Clebert Suconic
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Clebert Suconic
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Clebert Suconic
> > >
>
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> Clebert Suconic
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