Agree, infra guys are pretty clear (at least Daniel and Chris were
very clear), but I guess other guys are not "up to date" ;)

Quick extract from the chat I had with them on Slack:

fluxo  20 h 38
you might even say it is, in fact, [preferred]
Humbedooh  20 h 39
download.apache.org is backup OR for sigs/checksums

So, it's what I said: dlcdn is the preferred download system for
artifacts, and keep download for sign/hash.

I will update the website accordingly.

Regards
JB

On Wed, Mar 30, 2022 at 10:41 AM Robbie Gemmell
<robbie.gemm...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> They must have changed their stance from the announcement threads then
> where they said the opposite more than once.
>
> On Wed, 30 Mar 2022 at 06:41, Jean-Baptiste Onofré <j...@nanthrax.net> wrote:
> >
> > Hi
> >
> > I talked with asfinfra last need to double check:
> >
> > 1. They confirm that dlcdn is the URL to use for artifact download
> > 2. They confirm the webpage Robbie linked is not up to date. I talked with
> > Andrew Wetmore (author of this page). He didn’t know dlcdn : he will update
> > the page with my help.
> >
> > So, according to this update, I will do a new pass on ActiveMQ website to
> > use dlcdn where it makes sense and fix signature / hash links.
> >
> > Regards
> > JB
> >
> > Le mar. 29 mars 2022 à 18:17, Robbie Gemmell <robbie.gemm...@gmail.com> a
> > écrit :
> >
> > > This seems wrong, I think this should be reverted.
> > >
> > > We are still asked to use the redirect scripts so that infra can
> > > manage resources as needed, and are meant to link to
> > > downloads.apache.org for checksums as the page did.
> > > https://infra.apache.org/release-download-pages.html
> > >
> > > The old links also redirected to the archive whenever the release is
> > > removed from the CDN, whereas your replacement ones will 404.
> > > Meanwhile as you didnt update all the release template bits there are
> > > now 2 different styles in use across the site (or even in the same
> > > page in cases) as all the other generated bits are still as they were
> > > before.
> > >
> > > Robbie
> > >
> > > On Mon, 21 Mar 2022 at 13:49, <jbono...@apache.org> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > This is an automated email from the ASF dual-hosted git repository.
> > > >
> > > > jbonofre pushed a commit to branch main
> > > > in repository https://gitbox.apache.org/repos/asf/activemq-website.git
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > The following commit(s) were added to refs/heads/main by this push:
> > > >      new fc6da54  Use "new" dlcdn download URLs
> > > > fc6da54 is described below
> > > >
> > > > commit fc6da54d8ff0f5972364a249803aa521a5ff4105
> > > > Author: Jean-Baptiste Onofré <jbono...@apache.org>
> > > > AuthorDate: Mon Mar 21 14:49:28 2022 +0100
> > > >
> > > >     Use "new" dlcdn download URLs
> > > > ---
> > > >  src/components/artemis/download/index.md                | 2 +-
> > > >  src/components/classic/download/index.md                | 6 +++---
> > > >  src/components/cms/developers/creating-distributions.md | 8 +++-----
> > > >  3 files changed, 7 insertions(+), 9 deletions(-)
> > > >
> > > > diff --git a/src/components/artemis/download/index.md
> > > b/src/components/artemis/download/index.md
> > > > index 07fe8bd..dcdfad0 100644
> > > > --- a/src/components/artemis/download/index.md
> > > > +++ b/src/components/artemis/download/index.md
> > > > @@ -31,7 +31,7 @@ This is the current release of ActiveMQ Artemis
> > > Native, which is a sub component
> > > >
> > > >  [Release Notes](release-notes-native-1.0.2)
> > > >
> > > > -Source Distribution:|[apache-artemis-native-1.0.2-source-release.zip](
> > > https://www.apache.org/dyn/closer.cgi?filename=activemq/activemq-artemis-native/1.0.2/activemq-artemis-native-1.0.2-source-release.zip&action=download)|[SHA512](https://downloads.apache.org/activemq/activemq-artemis-native/1.0.2/activemq-artemis-native-1.0.2-source-release.zip.sha512)|[GPG
> > > Signature](
> > > https://downloads.apache.org/activemq/activemq-artemis-native/1.0.2/activemq-artemis-native-1.0.2-source-release.zip.asc)|
> > > > +Source Distribution:|[apache-artemis-native-1.0.2-source-release.zip](
> > > https://dlcdn.apache.org/activemq/activemq-artemis-native/1.0.2/activemq-artemis-native-1.0.2-source-release.zip)|[SHA512](https://dlcdn.apache.org/activemq/activemq-artemis-native/1.0.2/activemq-artemis-native-1.0.2-source-release.zip.sha512)|[GPG
> > > Signature](
> > > https://dlcdn.apache.org/activemq/activemq-artemis-native/1.0.2/activemq-artemis-native-1.0.2-source-release.zip.asc)|
> > > >
> > > >  This is the native layer used by ActiveMQ Artemis for storage. The
> > > broker binary archives above already include a pre-compiled version of 
> > > this
> > > component.
> > > >  <br/>
> > > > diff --git a/src/components/classic/download/index.md
> > > b/src/components/classic/download/index.md
> > > > index 58321ca..78e7953 100644
> > > > --- a/src/components/classic/download/index.md
> > > > +++ b/src/components/classic/download/index.md
> > > > @@ -21,9 +21,9 @@ It is important to [verify the
> > > integrity](#verify-the-integrity-of-downloads) of
> > > >  **NOTE**: This is the last planned 5.15.x release. Users should upgrade
> > > to the current 5.16.x stream for ongoing releases.
> > > >  {% endif %}
> > > >
> > > > -Windows|[apache-activemq-{{release.version}}-bin.zip](
> > > https://www.apache.org/dyn/closer.cgi?filename=/activemq/{{release.version}}/apache-activemq-{{release.version}}-bin.zip&action=download)|[SHA512](https://downloads.apache.org/activemq/{{release.version}}/apache-activemq-{{release.version}}-bin.zip.sha512)|[GPG
> > > Signature](
> > > https://downloads.apache.org/activemq/{{release.version}}/apache-activemq-{{release.version}}-bin.zip.asc
> > > )
> > > > -Unix/Linux/Cygwin|[apache-activemq-{{release.version}}-bin.tar.gz](
> > > https://www.apache.org/dyn/closer.cgi?filename=/activemq/{{release.version}}/apache-activemq-{{release.version}}-bin.tar.gz&action=download)|[SHA512](https://downloads.apache.org/activemq/{{release.version}}/apache-activemq-{{release.version}}-bin.tar.gz.sha512)|[GPG
> > > Signature](
> > > https://downloads.apache.org/activemq/{{release.version}}/apache-activemq-{{release.version}}-bin.tar.gz.asc
> > > )
> > > > -Source Code
> > > Distribution:|[activemq-parent-{{release.version}}-source-release.zip](
> > > https://www.apache.org/dyn/closer.cgi?filename=/activemq/{{release.version}}/activemq-parent-{{release.version}}-source-release.zip&action=download)|[SHA512](https://downloads.apache.org/activemq/{{release.version}}/activemq-parent-{{release.version}}-source-release.zip.sha512)|[GPG
> > > Signature](
> > > https://downloads.apache.org/activemq/{{release.version}}/activemq-parent-{{release.version}}-source-release.zip.asc
> > > )
> > > > +Windows|[apache-activemq-{{release.version}}-bin.zip](
> > > https://dlcdn.apache.org/activemq/{{release.version}}/apache-activemq-{{release.version}}-bin.zip)|[SHA512](https://dlcdn.apache.org/activemq/{{release.version}}/apache-activemq-{{release.version}}-bin.zip.sha512)|[GPG
> > > Signature](
> > > https://dlcdn.apache.org/activemq/{{release.version}}/apache-activemq-{{release.version}}-bin.zip.asc
> > > )
> > > > +Unix/Linux/Cygwin|[apache-activemq-{{release.version}}-bin.tar.gz](
> > > https://dlcdn.apache.org/activemq/{{release.version}}/apache-activemq-{{release.version}}-bin.tar.gz)|[SHA512](https://dlcdn.apache.org/activemq/{{release.version}}/apache-activemq-{{release.version}}-bin.tar.gz.sha512)|[GPG
> > > Signature](
> > > https://dlcdn.apache.org/activemq/{{release.version}}/apache-activemq-{{release.version}}-bin.tar.gz.asc
> > > )
> > > > +Source Code
> > > Distribution:|[activemq-parent-{{release.version}}-source-release.zip](
> > > https://dlcdn.apache.org/activemq/{{release.version}}/activemq-parent-{{release.version}}-source-release.zip)|[SHA512](https://dlcdn.apache.org/activemq/{{release.version}}/activemq-parent-{{release.version}}-source-release.zip.sha512)|[GPG
> > > Signature](
> > > https://dlcdn.apache.org/activemq/{{release.version}}/activemq-parent-{{release.version}}-source-release.zip.asc
> > > )
> > > >              {% break %}
> > > >          {% endif %}
> > > >      {% endfor %}
> > > > diff --git a/src/components/cms/developers/creating-distributions.md
> > > b/src/components/cms/developers/creating-distributions.md
> > > > index c50ba7e..d3ea662 100644
> > > > --- a/src/components/cms/developers/creating-distributions.md
> > > > +++ b/src/components/cms/developers/creating-distributions.md
> > > > @@ -18,9 +18,7 @@ Under the source dir, we just drop the archive files
> > > (*.zip, *.tar.gz, *.zip.asc
> > > >
> > > >  The links on our download pages reference an apache CGI script to
> > > handle the mirrors. This is a quick and dirty way of doing this, but it
> > > works until we come up with a better way. An example usage of the link is
> > > the url below:
> > > >
> > > > -[
> > > http://www.apache.org/dyn/closer.cgi/activemq/activemq-cpp/source/activemq-cpp-1.1-src.zip](http://www.apache.org/dyn/closer.cgi/activemq/activemq-cpp/source/activemq-cpp-1.1-src.zip)
> > > > -
> > > > -The cgi script "closer.cgi" takes a file resource relative to www/
> > > www.apache.org/dist and generates a download page for it with the list of
> > > mirrors.
> > > > +[
> > > https://dlcdn.apache.org/activemq/activemq-cpp/source/activemq-cpp-1.1-src.zip](https://dlcdn.apache.org/activemq/activemq-cpp/source/activemq-cpp-1.1-src.zip)
> > > >
> > > >  To see this in action, go to the amq-cpp 1.1 download page here:
> > > [activemq-cpp-11-release.md](../../download/11-release)
> > > >
> > > > @@ -62,9 +60,9 @@ The page [ActiveMQ-CPP product version
> > > number](Index/Overview/Download/ActiveMQ-
> > > >      ````
> > > >  *   Copy the distribution files to **/www/
> > > www.apache.org/dist/activemq/activemq-cpp/source** on minotaur.
> > > >  *   Wait 24 hours for the mirrors to be updated with the distribution.
> > > > -*   Update the links on the download page to reference your
> > > distribution through the CGI script. This simply means that you precede 
> > > the
> > > file names with the path [
> > > http://www.apache.org/dyn/closer.cgi/activemq/activemq-cpp/source/](http://www.apache.org/dyn/closer.cgi/activemq/activemq-cpp/source/)
> > > .
> > > > +*   Update the links on the download page to reference your
> > > distribution through the CGI script. This simply means that you precede 
> > > the
> > > file names with the path [
> > > https://dlcdn.apache.org/activemq/activemq-cpp/source/](https://dlcdn.apache.org/activemq/activemq-cpp/source/)
> > > .
> > > >      ```
> > > > -    i.e.
> > > http://www.apache.org/dyn/closer.cgi/activemq/activemq-cpp/source/activemq-cpp-1.1-src.zip
> > > > +    i.e.
> > > https://dlcdn.apache.org/activemq/activemq-cpp/source/activemq-cpp-1.1-src.zip
> > > >      ```
> > > >  *   Generate the Doxygen API and place it under /www/
> > > activemq.apache.org/cms/api_docs.
> > > >  *   Add the link to the release API to the
> > > [API](Index/Site/NavigationIndex/Site/Navigation/Index/Site/Navigation/api.md)
> > > page.
> > >

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