> It's probably time to start removing Spring entirely as a dependency as
it doesn't provide any value really and just a ton of issues with security
issues etc.

This is one of the main reasons Artemis eschewed Spring completely in this
regard. Using it for anything other than basic integration tests is asking
for a head-ache, although I can totally understand why it was adopted for
this use 14 years ago now. The apparent convenience is attractive.


Justin

On Tue, Nov 26, 2024 at 11:14 AM Christopher Shannon <
christopher.l.shan...@gmail.com> wrote:

> As a side note, I understand that Spring has discontinued support for 5.3.x
> but it's pretty unfortunate they won't even backport CVE fixes (like Jetty
> does for 9.4.x)
>
> I guess we need to start providing a warning for users that are going to
> use 5.18.x that the version of Spring isn't maintained anymore. Spring is
> at least optional and is needed for the Xml config, but I don't think it is
> needed for anything else but I'd need to double check. It's possible the
> dependencies are being transitively included elsewhere though.
>
> It's probably time to start removing Spring entirely as a dependency as it
> doesn't provide any value really and just a ton of issues with security
> issues etc. Unfortunately that means we need to figure out something else
> to use for the XML config I guess.
>
> On Tue, Nov 26, 2024 at 12:01 PM Matthew Gay
> <matthew....@broadcom.com.invalid> wrote:
>
> > Thanks.  Chris is right.  Looks like they are commercial releases only.
> >
> > Sorry for the confusion and fire drill.  Appreciate the responses.
> >
> >
> > Matthew Gay
> >
> > Principal Support Engineer | Agile Operations Division
> >
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> >
> > matthew....@broadcom.com
> >
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> >
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> >
> > On Tue, Nov 26, 2024 at 11:58 AM Christopher Shannon <
> > christopher.l.shan...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> That version is probably a commercial release. This blog post talks
> about
> >> version 5.3.42 as commercial
> >>
> >>
> https://spring.io/blog/2024/11/15/spring-framework-cve-2024-38828-published
> >>
> >> So obviously we won't be upgrading to anything beyond 5.3.39 as that is
> >> the
> >> last open source release.
> >>
> >> On Tue, Nov 26, 2024 at 11:50 AM Justin Bertram <jbert...@apache.org>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> > > ...5.3.41 resolves those vulnerabilities.
> >> >
> >> > There is no release for Spring 5.3.41. It is not tagged in their repo
> >> [1]
> >> > and it is not in Maven [2].
> >> >
> >> > > What version of AMQ will be updating Spring to that version?
> >> >
> >> > That remains to be seen since Spring 5.3.41 isn't yet released.
> >> > Furthermore, 5.3.40 is also not yet released.
> >> >
> >> > > Shouldn't AMQ include the latest Spring?
> >> >
> >> > Based on the evidence Spring 5.3.39 _is_ the latest release.
> >> >
> >> > What has given you the impression that Spring 5.3.41 is available?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Justin
> >> >
> >> > [1] https://github.com/spring-projects/spring-framework/tags
> >> > [2] https://repo1.maven.org/maven2/org/springframework/spring-core/
> >> >
> >> > On Tue, Nov 26, 2024 at 10:20 AM Matthew Gay
> >> > <matthew....@broadcom.com.invalid> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > Sorry, I got my versions mixed up.
> >> > >
> >> > > Spring 5.3.39 is currently shipped with AMQ and is vulnerable.
> >> > > 5.3.41 resolves those vulnerabilities.
> >> > >
> >> > > What version of AMQ will be updating Spring to that version?
> >> > > I see on your link provided (thank you) that it is still 5.3.39
> with a
> >> > > release date of late December.
> >> > >
> >> > > Shouldn't AMQ include the latest Spring?
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > Matthew Gay
> >> > >
> >> > > Principal Support Engineer | Agile Operations Division
> >> > >
> >> > > Broadcom
> >> > >
> >> > > matthew....@broadcom.com
> >> > >
> >> > > Twitter <https://twitter.com/BroadcomSW> | LinkedIn
> >> > > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/broadcomsoftware>
> >> > >
> >> > >
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> >> > >
> >> > > On Tue, Nov 26, 2024 at 10:57 AM Jean-Baptiste Onofré <
> >> j...@nanthrax.net>
> >> > > wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > >> Hi Matt
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Not sure I understand: Spring 5.18.41 doesn't exist afaik (
> >> > >> https://repo1.maven.org/maven2/org/springframework/spring-core/).
> >> > >>
> >> > >> ActiveMQ 5.18.x is using Spring 5.3.39.
> >> > >>
> >> > >> You can find Spring versions used on the table here:
> >> > >> https://activemq.apache.org/components/classic/download/ (in the
> >> > >> schedule &
> >> > >> status section).
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Regards
> >> > >> JB
> >> > >>
> >> > >> On Tue, Nov 26, 2024 at 4:45 PM Matthew Gay
> >> > >> <matthew....@broadcom.com.invalid> wrote:
> >> > >>
> >> > >> > Hi Team,
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > Is there any timeline or versioning available for when AMQ will
> >> update
> >> > >> to
> >> > >> > Spring 5.18.41?
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > Thanks!
> >> > >> > Matt
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > Matthew Gay
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > Principal Support Engineer | Agile Operations Division
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > Broadcom
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > matthew....@broadcom.com
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