I usually wait rhe business days.

This time I thought it was fine given it was almost over, and I wanted to
finish it before I was gone for a day tomorrow.


I will make sure I wait the businesss hours next time.

Thanks Chris.

Clebert Suconic


On Mon, Mar 17, 2025 at 7:32 PM Christopher Shannon <
christopher.l.shan...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Giving the date is fine, but I would still phrase it as something like
> "Voting will continue until at least X date" just so everyone knows it
> won't close before then, vs a hard deadline as it can still go longer
> if something comes up. (outstanding issue, release manager is busy,
> etc).
>
> The end time in UTC could be included as well but I'm not too worried
> either way about it being exact as the spirit of the proposal is to
> prevent stuff like starting a vote on friday afternoon and closing it
> on monday afternoon when the majority of time people are probably not
> even paying attention for the entire weekend so it is really just a 24
> hour vote.
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 17, 2025 at 6:52 PM Ken Liao <kenlia...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Agree. And on a side note, to make it easier for the community, the email
> > should include a date for the "deadline" of voting, instead of saying "it
> > will be open for at least 72 hours". WDYT?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Ken
> >
> > On Mon, Mar 17, 2025 at 2:59 PM Jamie G. <jamie.goody...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > > I tend to agree here.
> > >
> > > Full builds with all unit tests on AMQ can take 4 to 5 hours , if one
> is
> > > testing many jvm vendors & platforms it can take a few days just to get
> > > coverage. Weekend releases can make it challenging to complete them
> all.
> > >
> > > On Mon, Mar 17, 2025 at 19:23 Christopher Shannon <
> > > christopher.l.shan...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > The Apache guideline for voting is that votes should run for at least
> > > > 72 hours [1] but nothing prevents a vote from going longer. It also
> > > > doesn't specify anything about votes on weekends or not but just
> > > > generally 72 hours.
> > > >
> > > > Because there isn't a maximum time for votes, (I've seen votes go
> > > > weeks on some projects), I think it would be a good idea if we
> adopted
> > > > a policy where we don't count weekend days or major holidays etc to
> > > > allow for everyone 3 business days to be able to have a chance to
> > > > review a release and vote.
> > > >
> > > > This doesn't have to be something super strict, we don't need to go
> > > > crazy counting holidays as they can vary by country and region, but
> > > > major holidays like New Years make sense. Urgent releases can also
> > > > always go out quicker if needed, I just think it would be a nice goal
> > > > for most releases though.
> > > >
> > > > Thoughts?
> > > >
> > > > [1] https://www.apache.org/foundation/voting.html
> > > >
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