To further clarify...

The website indicates that there are currently 3 "Stable - Supported"
series - 6.1.x, 5.19.x, and 5.18.x. There is also 6.2.x which is "In Dev."
Would this new policy result in potentially 4 total releases per month?


Justin

On Wed, Nov 12, 2025 at 10:42 AM Jean-Baptiste Onofré <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Hi
>
> I had a chat with Art, and he made me realize that this thread is not
> super clear, both in terms of "why" and "how".
>
> So, to summarize the why, the intentions for a "best effort monthly
> release cadence" are:
> 1. "More predictable" releases cycle for our users, with a high level
> expected release content.
> 2. Faster features/fixes shipping for our contributors (and us ;) ).
> At a high level, the goal is to even more grow our community (users
> and contributors).
>
> I'm volunteering to start doing "best effort monthly" releases unless
> there is any concern (starting in January).
>
> Regards
> JB
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 12, 2025 at 5:41 AM Jean-Baptiste Onofré <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi
> >
> > It's up to the projects to decide their release frequency (so no
> > guideline or rule at foundation level).
> >
> > My proposal (and the purpose) is to have a predictable release cycle
> > for the users and ship fixes/updates faster.
> >
> > Regards
> > JB
> >
> > On Tue, Nov 11, 2025 at 9:36 PM Arthur Naseef <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >
> > > Are there  guidelines or rules around release frequency?  If so, I'm
> not
> > > aware - even when I did some releases.
> > >
> > > Are there any real concerns we want to address here?
> > >
> > > Art
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, Nov 11, 2025 at 1:07 PM Matt Pavlovich <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > > +1 on this approach. I think it may be clarified like this:
> > > >
> > > > “Best effort” once-per-month release for dependency updates at a
> minimum
> > > > for active LTS release steams.
> > > >
> > > > Example: v6.2.1 & v5.19.7, then v6.2.2, v5.19.8, etc.
> > > >
> > > > Then minor and major releases as needed or in the monthly release
> window
> > > > as it works out.
> > > >
> > > > -Matt
> > > >
> > > > > On Nov 11, 2025, at 11:24 AM, Christopher Shannon <
> > > > [email protected]> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Best effort is fine with me in that case. As long as it's not super
> > > > > "strict", monthly works if we have stuff ready to go.
> > > > >
> > > > > Dependabot would be nice, it would make the updates easier to have
> it
> > > > more
> > > > > automated if possible.
> > > > >
> > > > > On Tue, Nov 11, 2025 at 11:55 AM Jean-Baptiste Onofré <
> [email protected]>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >> Also, something I'm proposing is to join the ATR initiative.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Regards
> > > > >> JB
> > > > >>
> > > > >> On Tue, Nov 11, 2025 at 5:53 PM Jean-Baptiste Onofré <
> [email protected]>
> > > > >> wrote:
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Hi Chris,
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Sorry I was not clear in my previous message: the intent is not
> to
> > > > >>> have something strict but more as "best effort". If we don't
> have any
> > > > >>> change, no need to release. But as soon as we have something, we
> can
> > > > >>> ship asap.
> > > > >>> So, I think we are on the same page ;)
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> About the dependency updates, I was thinking about
> > > > >>> dependabot/renovatebot, but it's a separate discussion I will
> start :)
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Regards
> > > > >>> JB
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> On Tue, Nov 11, 2025 at 5:37 PM Christopher Shannon
> > > > >>> <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> Hi Jb,
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> In general, releasing more frequently is definitely good, and
> I'm not
> > > > >>>> against releasing monthly if there is stuff to release, but I'm
> not
> > > > >> really
> > > > >>>> in favor of having any kind of super fixed release schedule
> because a
> > > > >> lot
> > > > >>>> of issues come up from it and being flexible is important so i
> think
> > > > we
> > > > >>>> might want to be a little be less rigid.
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>>   1. A guaranteed monthly release means something could go out
> that
> > > > >> has
> > > > >>>>   very little changes. With ActiveMQ not a ton of changes happen
> > > > >> every month
> > > > >>>>   so many times there's not much to release and simple
> dependency
> > > > >> updates and
> > > > >>>>   minor fixes can be done in minor releases instead.
> > > > >>>>   2. You can get into the opposite situation where stuff is
> ready to
> > > > >> be
> > > > >>>>   released but we are stuck waiting for the release time. (this
> is
> > > > >> not really
> > > > >>>>   a big deal for a month long cadence but for longer it is)
> > > > >>>>   3. Usually this causes more problems because dates get
> missed. This
> > > > >> is
> > > > >>>>   all volunteer work after all, so I've seen a lot of situations
> > > > >> where the
> > > > >>>>   promised releases never go out on time. For Kafka for
> example, they
> > > > >> have a
> > > > >>>>   release schedule and it is almost never on time. The releases
> > > > >> always go out
> > > > >>>>   later because of any number of delays.
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> I think we can certainly encourage faster releases but maybe be
> a bit
> > > > >> more
> > > > >>>> flexible, something like:
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>>   - We can try and release monthly if there are things ready to
> go
> > > > >> out,
> > > > >>>>   but can be flexible and skip a month or 2 (nothing important
> to
> > > > >> release,
> > > > >>>>   other issues come up,etc).
> > > > >>>>   - We can plan to release a major version at least once a
> quarter
> > > > >> (ie.
> > > > >>>>   6.3.0 or 6.4.0) if we skipped months
> > > > >>>>   - If we don't release a major update for that month we can
> always at
> > > > >>>>   least do a minor update ie 6.3.1
> > > > >>>>   - Release faster if something important is needed (this is
> probably
> > > > >>>>   unlikely) is fine too
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> Chris
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> On Tue, Nov 11, 2025 at 11:08 AM Jean-Baptiste Onofré <
> > > > [email protected]
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>> wrote:
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>>> Hi folks,
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>> In order to ship changes faster (I'm thinking of the
> discussion about
> > > > >>>>> VirtualThread in Classic 6.2.0 for instance), and to have a
> > > > >>>>> "predictable" cycle for our users, I would like to propose a
> monthly
> > > > >>>>> release pace for ActiveMQ Classic.
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>> For instance, it means that 6.3.0 can be released in December,
> 6.4.0
> > > > >>>>> in January, etc.
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>> The purpose is also to encourage contributors as their
> contributions
> > > > >>>>> will be included in releases faster.
> > > > >>>>> I also think that it would be a good way to be up to date with
> > > > >>>>> dependencies (I'm thinking of the discussion about a bunch of
> Jira
> > > > >>>>> regarding dependency updates in Classic 6.2.0).
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>> Thoughts?
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>> Regards
> > > > >>>>> JB
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>>
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