The release notes in any branch named release/<something>, are basically
frozen to when that release branch was created. Think of the releases as
snapshots, they won't change, once created.

The alpha PG12 branch that release/PG12/1.1.0 is based off of is the
release/1.1.0 branch (PG 11). That is why the release notes are the same.

FYI, to avoid confusion in the future, the next release for PG11 will be
release/PG11/<version number> Basically, release/PG<version>/<age version>

Hope this is helpful.

john

On Thu, Dec 8, 2022 at 4:27 PM Joe Suh <[email protected]> wrote:

> "Other developers, like you and myself, generally clone the master
> repository and base our work off of a local copy. I regularly sync my local
> copy with the master to keep it up-to-date. If there are significant
> changes (see below), that could easily cause confusion or make a mess with
> rebasing. That mess can be very time-consuming and frustrating to fix.
> That's the "unhappy" part."
>
> I'm not a developer, but I guess I get that part now.
> Thanks for clearing that up.
>
> The release branch I was talking about was
> https://github.com/apache/age/tree/release/PG12/1.1.0
> Also refer to https://github.com/apache/age/tree/AGE_PG12.1.0_ALPHA (alpha
> branch)
>
> These two branches have Aug 11th release notes as 'Latest'.
> I believe this is a release note for PG11.
> Although I see no differences between the release notes for Aug 11th and
> Oct 26th,
> Oct 26th states it's a release note for PG12, hence why I suggested the two
> branches be updated.
>
> Joe
>
>
>
>
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> 2022년 12월 9일 (금) 오전 9:12, John Gemignani <[email protected]>님이
> 작성:
>
> > " Aside from the branch names, I would also like to point out that the
> > release notes for PG 12 branches (both alpha and release) are not updated
> > yet.
> > The latest release notes show August 11th, which I think is a release
> note
> > for PG11.
> > I would like to suggest at least updating that info by the end of this
> > discussion."
> >
> > I need to clarify what you mean by release branches? Can you link the
> > release notes that you are referring to?
> >
> > john
> >
> > On Thu, Dec 8, 2022 at 4:09 PM John Gemignani <
> [email protected]>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > I was always told (*and maybe I was told incorrectly*) that once
> > > something was pushed to the master repository, one should only really
> add
> > > changes to it - not delete it. That it was bad practice to do
> otherwise.
> > >
> > > Other developers, like you and myself, generally clone the master
> > > repository and base our work off of a local copy. I regularly sync my
> > local
> > > copy with the master to keep it up-to-date. If there are significant
> > > changes (see below), that could easily cause confusion or make a mess
> > with
> > > rebasing. That mess can be very time consuming and frustrating to fix.
> > > That's the "unhappy" part.
> > >
> > > Another part of my issue, and maybe it is a bit of an overreaction,
> with
> > > renaming *a remote branch*, is that it involves pushing a new branch (a
> > > copy of the old branch) to the remote and then *deleting *the old
> branch
> > > on the remote.
> > >
> > > We had an issue, once, where a force push command was used on the
> remote
> > > repository and it basically destroyed the master branch. Luckily, we
> had
> > a
> > > local copy that was current and were able to restore it. But, it was an
> > > unpleasant experience; delete would likely be just as painful, if a
> > mistake
> > > were made. That is why I feel it is better to just not enter that
> > territory.
> > >
> > > john
> > >
> > > On Mon, Dec 5, 2022 at 7:53 PM Joe Suh <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >
> > >> Thank you John for the brief history of the naming of branches.
> > >> I see now there are some strict rules regarding these branch names.
> > >> I'm not quite sure exactly why or how developers will be 'unhappy'
> with
> > >> the
> > >> change,
> > >> but since you already discussed this matter, I guess the branch names
> > are
> > >> set in stone.
> > >>
> > >> Aside from the branch names, I would also like to point out that the
> > >> release notes for PG 12 branches (both alpha and release) are not
> > updated
> > >> yet.
> > >> The latest release notes show August 11th, which I think is a release
> > note
> > >> for PG11.
> > >> I would like to suggest at least updating that info by the end of this
> > >> discussion.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> * Joe Suh / 서준섭*
> > >>
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> > >>
> > >>
> > >> 2022년 12월 2일 (금) 오전 4:11, John Gemignani <[email protected]
> >님이
> > >> 작성:
> > >>
> > >> > Thank you Joe for your input!
> > >> >
> > >> > Here are my general responses to your input in order of their
> > >> appearance -
> > >> >
> > >> > Github's master branch really only supports AGE for *one *version of
> > >> > PostgreSQL (PG).
> > >> >
> > >> > AGE started with PG 11, specifically PG 11.5, so the master branch
> is
> > >> > technically AGE for PG 11.5. This really cannot change, at least not
> > >> > easily. The only way would be if we had one version of AGE for all
> > >> versions
> > >> > of PG, *which is not trivial*. So, currently we are using branches
> off
> > >> of
> > >> > the master for these different PG versions of AGE.
> > >> >
> > >> > The names of the current branches cannot be renamed. Once a branch
> is
> > >> made
> > >> > public, it needs to stay the way it is - no renaming or deleting.
> This
> > >> is
> > >> > because others (developers) may reference it and changing it would
> > cause
> > >> > those developers to become "unhappy". So, we cannot rename a branch.
> > We
> > >> can
> > >> > only create new branches, where appropriate, with the appropriate
> > name.
> > >> > Case in point, the alpha branch for PG 12. This needs to stay named
> as
> > >> is.
> > >> > We will, however, be creating a branch for it called PG 12 that will
> > be
> > >> > used going forward.
> > >> >
> > >> > The recent addition of AGE for PG 12 has caused us to revisit the
> > >> naming of
> > >> > our branches. So, we have looked at other repos and have discussed
> > >> naming
> > >> > conventions in previous [DISCUSS] threads and internal emails; you
> are
> > >> > actually starting to see this with the release branch naming.
> > Basically,
> > >> > going forward, all main branches will be prefixed with *PG<version>*
> > and
> > >> > all of their corresponding release branches with
> > >> > *release/PG<version>/<version>* The names of the previous PG 11
> > release
> > >> > branches will, however, remain the same while the new release
> branches
> > >> will
> > >> > be *release/PG11/<version>*
> > >> >
> > >> > There will, of course, be some exceptions to these naming standards,
> > for
> > >> > example, experimental branches.
> > >> >
> > >> > Unfortunately, the only time that you will really get to see these
> > >> changes
> > >> > is when we either have a new version, a new release, or migrate
> > >> something
> > >> > from one to another. Which we will be doing with PG 12 shortly.
> > >> >
> > >> > Hope this was helpful.
> > >> >
> > >> > john
> > >> >
> > >> > On Wed, Nov 30, 2022 at 8:46 PM Joe Suh <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > > Hello everyone,
> > >> > >
> > >> > > I'm Joe (Github ID: jbiz805), one of the contributors in AGE.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > While I was working on the AGE readme for the past couple of
> months
> > I
> > >> > > couldn't help but notice questionable naming of branches in AGE
> > repo.
> > >> > > I am quite confused with the branch naming at the moment because
> the
> > >> > latest
> > >> > > version is PG 12(AGE_PG12.1.0_ALPHA) and yet the Master branch
> > >> dedicates
> > >> > to
> > >> > > PG 11.
> > >> > > Unlike other standalone software out there, I understand that
> there
> > >> must
> > >> > be
> > >> > > branches for each Postgres version for AGE, like the upcoming 13,
> > 14,
> > >> and
> > >> > > 15.
> > >> > > But if PG 12 is now official (as updated in *release/PG12/1.1.0*)
> I
> > >> think
> > >> > > the topics below need to be discussed.
> > >> > > Also, I think the whole branch names need updates because to an
> > >> outsider
> > >> > or
> > >> > > non-developer pov, the branches seem quite unorganized.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > *1) Master Branch & Rename AGE_PG12.1.0_ALPHA*
> > >> > > - since it's no longer Alpha, rename the alpha branch or remove
> the
> > >> word
> > >> > > alpha
> > >> > > - also PG12 is the latest version for AGE, so shouldn't it be
> > >> promoted to
> > >> > > Master branch and PG 11 be made into a separate branch (for
> example,
> > >> > > *AGE_PG11.1.0*)?
> > >> > > - Just out of curiosity, does every GitHub repo require a master /
> > >> main
> > >> > > branch or can we just clearly specify branches for PG 11 and PG
> 12?
> > >> > >
> > >> > > *2) Update release notes for AGE_PG12.1.0_ALPHA (minor)*
> > >> > > - currently showing Aug 11th release note, which belongs to PG 11
> > >> > >
> > >> > > *3) Rename PG 11 release branches *
> > >> > > - right now PG 12 release branch is named *release/PG12/1.1.0*
> > >> > > *-* suggestion to rename PG 11 release branches, for example,
> > >> > > *release/PG11/0.6.0*, *release/PG11/0.7.0*.... so on)
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Let's discuss the topics above and see what we can do about
> > organizing
> > >> > the
> > >> > > branches.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Best regards,
> > >> > > Joe
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > > * Joe Suh / 서준섭*
> > >> > >
> > >> > > * 과장 / 마케팅전략팀*
> > >> > >
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> > >> > >
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >
> >
>

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