Hi Marlon,

In Airavata since we are using GFAC as an embedded mode with Workflow
Interpreter it not really a fire and forget even if we implement this in
GFAC core.

But it will not be bad since in WorkflowInterpreter we are handing each
node in a separate thread. But if we are going to use gfac as a separate
job submitting component this will definitely make sense.

So I am +1 for this change.

Regards
Lahiru


On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 11:48 AM, Marlon Pierce <[email protected]> wrote:

> The current GFAC providers all execute tasks in "blocking" mode: the
> provider stays active until the job terminates. This introduces some
> tradeoffs. On the one hand, determining the job state is very
> provider-specific. Doing it all in the provider makes things relatively
> simple to implement.
>
> On the other hand, this makes Airavata's state complicated.  This
> increases the difficulty of handling fault recovery and "elastic"
> scenarios, where we may need to restart failed servers, pass work from
> one running instance to another, and so forth.
>
> If we wanted to make the provider stateless and move monitoring to a
> different place, this would take some thoughtful design--I don't have an
> idea of the scope--so even if we all agreed it is a good idea, we have
> to overcome an energy barrier of a current system that is good enough
> for what we need to do.
>
> What are your thoughts?  We had a related discussion about this for a
> specific use case back in July [1].
>
>
> Marlon
>
>
> [1]
>
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/airavata-dev/201307.mbox/%[email protected]%3E
>



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