Hi All,

We let this topic live in the archives for 17 months, its probably has
baked enough. How about we revisit this thread and startup application use
cases and make it into a list of features Airavata should support for
Command Line Applications.

You can browse through the thread at -
http://markmail.org/thread/hd7azhp7w7o7eqyq

As we brainstorm, I will stratup a wiki document and capture the outcomes
and finally we can review the document and vote on it.

Suresh


On Sun, May 13, 2012 at 9:49 AM, Suresh Marru <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> I am trying to revisit the Airavata support for all command line options
> we pass to applications. Airavata's goal is to make end users oblivious to
> any application execution details, but application service providers need
> flexibility to configure all possible application options.
>
> Some terminology like arguments vs parameters vs attributes get ambiguous.
> They differ by definition but in practice they are often used
> interchangeably. For Airavata, we should avoid a confusion between whats
> exposed in wsdl's vs whats passed to application. This matches the
> semantics as well, for instance, an argument is an instance of parameter.
> This discussion is about what Airavata passes to the command line
> applications. I am not suggesting any changes to wsdl's and schemas which
> use xml definitions. For applications I am suggesting to use the
> terminology per POSIX standard definitions [1]. I also propose that we
> should try and follow the utility syntax guidelines [2]. If an application
> does not follow these guidelines, we suggest it be wrapped by a shell
> script so we can pass arguments and flags confirming to standard practices.
>
> Application refers to the commands airavata executes on computational
> resources.
>
> Working directory. Airavata should insist on executing each invocation in
> a unique working directory. Some applications try and change to a static
> directory, but if proper uniqueness is not followed for output and log
> files, we risk overwriting executions producing unintended outputs. Also,
> avoid writing to home directories and source directories. This might have
> side effects and a overrun log file might fill the disk space and freeze
> further usage of that account.
>
> Arguments:
> *  should support application arguments and provide a way to specify both
> required and optional.
> In the case of optional parameters, the resulting wsdl's attributes should
> have minOccurs=0 and airavata should skip passing that value to application
> (if not specified).
>
> * Airavata *should not* support arguments with operands followed by
> commands. These additional commands get forked without having control over
> the process id and monitoring and exit status of these series of commands
> gets tricky. More over, the underlying grid job managers do not like
> treating a chain of commands as one executable. Rather encourage explicitly
> specifying the execution chain and associated I/O.
>
> * Airavata should also support flags only ( they serve different purpose
> than option flags). Flags normally prefix with '--'. These flags control
> the execution of the application like --verbose, --fast, --use-fft, e.t.c
>
> * Arguments can be passed to the application as standardinput (with
> redirector operator) or as name-value pairs or with option flags. The
> option flags should always prefix with the POSIX standard of '-'.
>
> * If the arguments are preceded by an option flag they do not need to be
> ordered. But if the arguments are passed just as values, applications are
> sensitive to the order the arguments are passed. In this case, optional
> arguments have to carefully handled, as missing an argument in between will
> mislead.
>
> * If an argument is a file type, and if the file has a remote supported
> protocols of (http, ftp, gsiftp, s3) then the file has to be staged first
> and only local path passed to the application. Application should be able
> to consume the full local path and if only basename is required, it should
> be able to handle it internally.
>
> * If an application requires a remove ftp url as an argument, then it
> should be specified as a string, in which case Airavata will skip staging
> that url and will pass the url as is to the application.
>
> * Implicit Parameters: As much as possible, Airavata should insist on
> one-on-one match between inputs specified in service description to whats
> passed to application. But there will be exceptions like fortran
> applications which uses NAMELIST standard to specify all inputs in a config
> file and pass only this file to the application. In these cases, the
> application still needs to stage some data files to the remote compute
> server but these file names or implicitly specified in the application. The
> application typically looks for these files relative to working directory
> or to input namelist file.
>
> Outputs:
> * Airavata should support standard outputs and errors and optionally
> provide a way to specify the names of stdout and stderr.
> * All outputs required to be staged out of the compute machine or scratch
> working directory be explicitly specified.
> * If the output file name(s) are predetermined or specified at in a config
> file, then the name should be specified in application description. In the
> cases, where output file names are not deterministic, a regular expression
> or a containing directory should be specified.
> * If the application requires the output file name be passed at command
> line like -out output.txt, then airavata should provide support for these
> outputs flags.
> * Airavata should support outputs which can be optionally produced. If an
> optional output is not generated but application exits with exit code 0,
> then the application should be marked as success. (A different discussion
> on application execution success criteria is needed).
> * A default output data directory should be created on the remote compute
> resource. The application description should be able to specific an
> overriding name for this directory.
> * Airavata should support applications/shell script wrappers which print
> name-value pairs of output content or file paths to standard out.
>
> Once we discuss this topic, we should raise JIRAs for any missing features
> and also add these on website/wiki.
>
> Cheers,
> Suresh
>
> [1] -
> http://pubs.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/9699919799/basedefs/V1_chap03.html
> [2] -
> http://pubs.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/9699919799/basedefs/V1_chap12.html#tag_12_02
>
>
>

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