Hi Gaurav, Thanks a lot for the detailed description about DC/OS and how it can be utilized in Airavata. Seems like it is an interesting project and I'll add it to the technology list that are to be evaluated.
When selecting a technology, in addition to the features it provides, we might have to take some non-functional features like the community participation (committers, commits and forks), number of customers who are running it in production environments, maturity of the project and the complexity it brings in to the total system into the consideration. So I'll first try to go through the resources (documentation and source) and try to grab concepts of DC/OS and hopefully I can work with you to dig deeper to understand more about DC/OS Thanks Dimuthu On Thu, Oct 5, 2017 at 8:50 PM, Shenoy, Gourav Ganesh <[email protected]> wrote: > Sorry, missed the attachment in my previous email. > > > > PS: DC/OS is just a recommendation for performing containerized deployment > and application management for Airavata. I would be happy to consider > alternative frameworks such as Kubernetes. > > > > Thanks and Regards, > > Gourav Shenoy > > > > *From: *"Shenoy, Gourav Ganesh" <[email protected]> > *Reply-To: *"[email protected]" <[email protected]> > *Date: *Thursday, October 5, 2017 at 11:16 AM > > *To: *"[email protected]" <[email protected]> > *Subject: *Re: Linked Container Services for Apache Airavata Components - > Phase 1 - Requirement identification > > > > Hi Dimuthu, > > > > Very good summary! I am not sure if you have, but DC/OS (DataCenter > Operating System) is a container orchestration platform based on Apache > Mesos. The beauty of DC/OS is the ease and simplicity of > development/deployment; yet being extremely powerful in most of the > parameters – multi-datacenter, multi-cloud, scalability, high availability, > fault tolerance, load balancing, and more importantly the community support > is fantastic. > > > > DC/OS has an exhaustive service catalog, it’s more like a PAAS for > containers (not just restricted to containers though) – you can run > services like Spark, Kafka, RabbitMQ, etc out of the box with a single > click install. And Apache Mesos as the underlying resource manager makes it > seamless to deploy applications across different datacenters. There is a > concept of SERVICE vs JOB – service is considered long running and DC/OS > will make sure it keeps it running (if a service fails, it spins up a new > one), whereas jobs are one time executors. This comes handy for using DC/OS > as a target runtime for Airavata. > > > > We used DC/OS for our class project to run the distributed task execution > prototype we built (which uses RabbitMQ messaging). Here’s a link to the > blog I have explaining the process: https://gouravshenoy.github. > io/apache-airavata/spring17/2017/04/20/final-report.html . I have also > attached a PDF paper we wrote as part of the class explaining the task > execution process and *one solution* using rabbitmq messaging. > > > > I had also started with the work of containerizing Airavata and a unified > build + deployment mechanism with CI CD on DC/OS. Unfortunately, I couldn’t > complete it due to time constraints, but I would be more than happy to work > with you on this. Let me know and we can coordinate. > > > > Thanks and Regards, > > Gourav Shenoy > > > > *From: *DImuthu Upeksha <[email protected]> > *Reply-To: *"[email protected]" <[email protected]> > *Date: *Thursday, October 5, 2017 at 9:52 AM > *To: *"[email protected]" <[email protected]> > *Subject: *Re: Linked Container Services for Apache Airavata Components - > Phase 1 - Requirement identification > > > > Hi Marlon, > > > > Thanks for the input. I got your idea of availability mode and will keep > in mind while designing the PoC. CI/CD is the one I have missed and thanks > for pointing it out. > > > > Thanks > > Dimuthu > > > > On Thu, Oct 5, 2017 at 7:04 PM, Pierce, Marlon <[email protected]> wrote: > > Thanks, Dimuthu, this is a good summary. Others may comment about Kafka, > stateful versus stateless parts of Airavata, etc. You may also find some > of this discussion on the mailing list archives. > > > > Active-active vs. active-passive is a good question, and we have typically > thought of this in terms of individual Airavata components rather than the > whole system. Some components can be active-active (like a stateless > application manager), while others (like the orchestrator example you give > below) are stafefull and may be better as active-passive. > > > > There is also the issue of system updates and continuous deployments, > which could be added to your list. > > > > Marlon > > > > > > *From: *"[email protected]" <[email protected]> > *Reply-To: *"[email protected]" <[email protected]> > *Date: *Thursday, October 5, 2017 at 2:40 AM > *To: *"[email protected]" <[email protected]> > *Subject: *Linked Container Services for Apache Airavata Components - > Phase 1 - Requirement identification > > > > Hi All, > > > > Within last few days, I have been going through the requirements and > design of current setup of Airavata and I identified following ares as the > key focusing areas in the technology evaluation phase > > > > Micorservices deployment platform (container management system) > > > > Possible candidates: Google Kubernetes, Apache Mesos, Apache Helix > > As the most of the operational units of Airavata is supposed to be moving > into microservices based deployment pattern, having a unified deployment > platform to manage those microservices will make the DevOps operations > easier and faster. From the other hand, although writing and maintaining a > single micro service is a somewhat straightforward way, making multiple > microservies running, monitoring and maintaining the lifecycles manually in > a production environment is an tiresome and complex operation to perform. > Using such a deployment platform, we can easily automate lots of pain > points that I have mentioned earlier. > > > > Scalability > > > > We need a solution that can easily scalable depending on the load > condition of several parts of the system. For example, the workers in the > post processing pipeline should be able scaled up and down depending on the > events come into the message queue. > > > > Availability > > > > We need to support solution to be deployed in multiple geographically > distant data centers. When evaluating container management systems, we > should consider this is as a primary requirement. However one thing that I > am not sure is the availability mode that Airavata normally expect. Is it a > active-active mode or active-passive mode? > > > > Service discovery > > > > Once we move in to microservice based deployment pattern, there could be > scenarios where we want service discovery for several use cases. For > example, if we are going to scale up API Server to handle an increased > load, we might have to put a load balancer in between the client and API > Server instances. In that case, service discovery is essential to instruct > the load balancer with healthy API Server endpoints which are currently > running in the system. > > > > Cluster coordination > > > > Although micorservices are supposed to be stateless in most of the cases, > we might have scenarios to feed some state to particular micorservices. For > example if we are going to implement a microservice that perform > Orchestrator's role, there could be issues if we keep multiple instances of > it in several data centers to increase the availability. According to my > understanding, there should be only one Orchestrator being running at a > time as it is the one who takes decisions of the job execution process. So, > if we are going to keep multiple instances of it running in the system, > there should be an some sort of a leader election in between Orchestrator > quorum. > > > > Common messaging medium in between mocroservices > > > > This might be out of the scope but I thought of sharing with the team to > have an general idea. Idea was raised at the hip chat discussion with > Marlon and Gaourav. Using a common messaging medium might enable > microservices to communicate with in a decoupled manner which will increase > the scalability of the system. For example there is a reference > architecture that we can utilize with kafka based messaging medium [1], > [2]. However I noticed in one paper that Kafka was previously rejected as > writing clients was onerous. Please share your views on this as I'm not > familiar with the existing fan out model based on AMQP and pain points of > it. > > > > Those are the main areas that I have understood while going through > Airavata current implementation and requirements stated in some of the > research papers. Please let me know whether my understanding on above items > are correct and suggestions are always welcome :) > > > > [1] https://medium.com/@ulymarins/an-introduction-to-apache-kafka-and- > microservices-communication-bf0a0966d63 > > [2] https://www.slideshare.net/ConfluentInc/microservices-in-the-apache- > kafka-ecosystem > > > > References > > > > Marru, S., Gunathilake, L., Herath, C., Tangchaisin, P., Pierce, M., > Mattmann, C., Singh, R., Gunarathne, T., Chinthaka, E., Gardler, R. and > Slominski, A., 2011, November. Apache airavata: a framework for distributed > applications and computational workflows. In Proceedings of the 2011 ACM > workshop on Gateway computing environments (pp. 21-28). ACM. > > > > Nakandala, S., Pamidighantam, S., Yodage, S., Doshi, N., Abeysinghe, E., > Kankanamalage, C.P., Marru, S. and Pierce, M., 2016, July. Anatomy of the > SEAGrid Science Gateway. In Proceedings of the XSEDE16 Conference on > Diversity, Big Data, and Science at Scale (p. 40). ACM. > > > > Pierce, Marlon E., Suresh Marru, Lahiru Gunathilake, Don Kushan Wijeratne, > Raminder Singh, Chathuri Wimalasena, Shameera Ratnayaka, and Sudhakar > Pamidighantam. "Apache Airavata: design and directions of a science gateway > framework." Concurrency and Computation: Practice and Experience 27, no. 16 > (2015): 4282-4291. > > > > Pierce, Marlon, Suresh Marru, Borries Demeler, Raminderjeet Singh, and > Gary Gorbet. "The apache airavata application programming interface: > overview and evaluation with the UltraScan science gateway." In Proceedings > of the 9th Gateway Computing Environments Workshop, pp. 25-29. IEEE Press, > 2014. > > > > Marru, Suresh, Marlon Pierce, Sudhakar Pamidighantam, and Chathuri > Wimalasena. "Apache Airavata as a laboratory: architecture and case study > for component- based gateway middleware." In Proceedings of the 1st > Workshop on The Science of Cyberinfrastructure: Research, Experience, > Applications and Models, pp. 19-26. ACM, 2015. > > > > Thanks > > Dimuthu > > >
