Hi Helix Dev,

We are again seeing this delay in task execution. Please have a look at the
screencast [1] of logs printed in participant (top shell) and controller
(bottom shell). When I record this, there were about 90 - 100 workflows
pending to be executed. As you can see some tasks were suddenly executed
and then participant freezed for about 30 seconds before executing next set
of tasks. I can see some WARN logs on controller log. I feel like this 30
second delay is some sort of a pattern. What do you think as the reason for
this? I can provide you more information by turning on verbose logs on
controller if you want.

[1] https://youtu.be/3EUdSxnIxVw

Thanks
Dimuthu

On Thu, Oct 4, 2018 at 4:46 PM DImuthu Upeksha <dimuthu.upeks...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hi Junkai,
>
> I'm CCing Airavata dev list as this is directly related to the project.
>
> I just went through the zookeeper path like /<Cluster Name>/EXTERNALVIEW,
> /<Cluster Name>/CONFIGS/RESOURCE as I have noticed that helix controller is
> periodically monitoring for the children of those paths even though all the
> Workflows have moved into a saturated state like COMPLETED and STOPPED. In
> our case, we have a lot of completed workflows piled up in those paths. I
> believe that helix is clearing up those resources after some TTL. What I
> did was writing an external spectator [1] that continuously monitors for
> saturated workflows and clearing up resources before controller does that
> after a TTL. After that, we didn't see such delays in workflow execution
> and everything seems to be running smoothly. However we are continuously
> monitoring our deployments for any form of adverse effect introduced by
> that improvement.
>
> Please let us know if we are doing something wrong in this improvement or
> is there any better way to achieve this directly through helix task
> framework.
>
> [1]
> https://github.com/apache/airavata/blob/staging/modules/airavata-helix/helix-spectator/src/main/java/org/apache/airavata/helix/impl/controller/WorkflowCleanupAgent.java
>
> Thanks
> Dimuthu
>
> On Tue, Oct 2, 2018 at 1:12 PM Xue Junkai <junkai....@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Could you please check the log of how long for each pipeline stage takes?
>>
>> Also, did you set expiry for workflows? Are they piled up for long time?
>> How long for each workflow completes?
>>
>> best,
>>
>> Junkai
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 26, 2018 at 8:52 AM DImuthu Upeksha <
>> dimuthu.upeks...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Hi Junkai,
>> >
>> > Average load is like 10 - 20 workflows per minutes. In some cases it's
>> less
>> > than that However based on the observations, I feel like it does not
>> depend
>> > on the load and it is sporadic. Is there a particular log lines that I
>> can
>> > filter in controller and participant to capture the timeline of
>> workflow so
>> > that I can figure out which which component is malfunctioning? We use
>> helix
>> > v 0.8.1.
>> >
>> > Thanks
>> > Dimuthu
>> >
>> > On Tue, Sep 25, 2018 at 5:19 PM Xue Junkai <junkai....@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > > Hi Dimuthu,
>> > >
>> > > At which rate, you are keep submitting workflows? Usually, Workflow
>> > > scheduling is very fast. And which version of Helix you are using?
>> > >
>> > > Best,
>> > >
>> > > Junkai
>> > >
>> > > On Tue, Sep 25, 2018 at 8:58 AM DImuthu Upeksha <
>> > > dimuthu.upeks...@gmail.com>
>> > > wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > Hi Folks,
>> > > >
>> > > > We have noticed some delays between workflow submission and actual
>> > > picking
>> > > > up by participants and seems like that delay is somewhat constant
>> > around
>> > > 2-
>> > > > 3 minutes. We used to continuously submit workflows and after 2 -3
>> > > minutes,
>> > > > a bulk of workflows are picked by participant and execute them.
>> Then it
>> > > > remain silent for next 2 -3 minutes event we submit more workflows.
>> > It's
>> > > > like participant picking up workflows in discrete time intervals.
>> I'm
>> > not
>> > > > sure whether this is an issue of controller or the participant. Do
>> you
>> > > have
>> > > > any experience with this sort of behavior?
>> > > >
>> > > > Thanks
>> > > > Dimuthu
>> > > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > --
>> > > Junkai Xue
>> > >
>> >
>>
>>
>> --
>> Junkai Xue
>>
>

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