The new permissions stuff does sound better, and thanks for the clarification. I look forward to seeing a more open process. We have a team here at Rackspace that will likely start being involved more over the next few months, and it would be nice to be part of the process.
Greg On 8/22/14 8:43 PM, "Yusaku Sako" <[email protected]> wrote: >Greg, > >I completely agree with you. >The whole roadmap/design process needs to be much more transparent and >open so that those involved in the project are on the same page. >We have had designs posted on JIRAs for review/feedback/consensus, but >unfortunately that seems to be the exception rather than the rule; >this must be changed. As Erin mentioned, there's a wiki for the >Product Roadmap, but this is a bit too high level with no easy way to >correlate which JIRAs correspond to which features. >I will bring this up with the Ambari PMC to discuss ways to >significantly improve this. > >Regarding the "roles" removal, this is being replaced by a much more >flexible mechanism with permissions and privileges. >Previously, there were very coarse-grained roles called "admin" and >"user", with "admin" users having the right to read/write via the API >(i.e., POST/PUT/DELETE/GET), versus "user" users who can only make >read-only API calls (i.e., GET). >We had to get more granular than that, because users (and groups) >exist independent of any cluster now that Ambari Views are being >introduced. >The new mechanism allows granting permissions (that are customizable) >to users (and groups) on clusters and Ambari Views (and other >resources that may be introduced in the future). >When upgrading to the upcoming Ambari 1.7.0, the upgrade script will >automatically perform this conversion, so to the end user, this all >happens behind the scenes so that existing admins and users retain the >same access rights to the cluster. > >I hope this clears things up, and sorry about the surprise. > >Yusaku > >On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 9:44 AM, Erin Boyd <[email protected]> wrote: >> Hi Greg, >> I think this would be very helpful to all those whom are involved in >>the Ambari project. >> There is a current roadmap published on the wiki that I would found >>useful: >> >>https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=30755705 >> >> But as far as roles, I haven't found anything on the wiki. >> Erin >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Greg Hill" <[email protected]> >> To: [email protected] >> Sent: Friday, August 22, 2014 10:25:18 AM >> Subject: are there any public discussions about the direction of Ambari? >> >> I see a lot of work going on. I was surprised to see the 'roles' bit >>was removed (is that being replaced with something else to handle access >>control?). It seems like a lot of the devs are on the same page about >>the direction of the project, yet I see no evidence of any public >>discussion about it. There's nothing on the mailing lists, the IRC >>channel is always quiet. Is all of this just decided at internal >>meetings at Hortonworks or is there some other place I could be >>checking? Any chance of opening up the process so us outsiders can see >>what's coming before it just lands on us? >> >> Greg >> > >-- >CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE >NOTICE: This message is intended for the use of the individual or entity >to >which it is addressed and may contain information that is confidential, >privileged and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader >of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified >that >any printing, copying, dissemination, distribution, disclosure or >forwarding of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have >received this communication in error, please contact the sender >immediately >and delete it from your system. Thank You.
