Oh, I've just noticed that I submitted an additional question into the
wrong thread mistakenly.
https://lists.apache.org/thread/j6kc2h1lphvjvsblcthcl5yzzmjk3tb5 is
originally intended as a reply to this thread. Sorry for the
confusion.

Kengo Seki <[email protected]>

On Mon, Jun 20, 2022 at 11:31 AM Kengo Seki <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Thank you so much for writing the draft and commenting on it, Brahma and 
> Viraj!
> Firstly, a minor comment:
>
> > Trunk Code : Parallel we can work for the trunk code, this we might give as 
> > 2.8.
> > * Working on bigtop mpack
>
> This means adding a new built-in stack which uses the Bigtop
> repository, and not developing Mpack on the Bigtop side, right?
> If so, "bigtop mpack" sounds confusing a bit.
>
> > hdp-select can stay on branch-2.7 and it can be moved to bigtop for trunk 
> > branch. Thoughts?
>
> Sounds good to me. During the 2.7.x releases, users can use the HDP
> stack by default. In addition, they can also add the Bigtop stack
> through the Mpack, as Zhiguo mentioned in [1].
> Since 2.8 or 3.0, we will drop HDP and users can use the built-in
> Bigtop stack by default. It also allows us to drop the Mpack on the
> Bigtop side.
>
> Regarding the built-in Bigtop stack developed on trunk, the current
> BIGTOP stack in Ambari [2] may be a good start point to be upgraded.
> I ensured that Ambari 2.7.6 was successfully built with the
> `-Dstack.distribution=BIGTOP` option, though Bigtop 0.8 is too old to
> use for now.
>
> [1]: https://lists.apache.org/thread/ljnyymp2g9fg7cq4z7sfxd36bh8x7nlm
> [2]: 
> https://github.com/apache/ambari/tree/release-2.7.6/ambari-server/src/main/resources/stacks/BIGTOP/0.8
>
> Kengo Seki <[email protected]>
>
> On Mon, Jun 20, 2022 at 9:26 AM Viraj Jasani <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > Thanks for the nice draft, Brahma!
> >
> > IMHO, as we narrow down to 2.7.7 release, it might be still worth sticking
> > to HDP i.e. plugin the new stack for HDP for 2.7 release line. For 2.8.0
> > (or 3.0.0), we can add entire new stack (BDP sounds good one) and start off
> > with 2.8.0/3.0.0 stack version.
> >
> > hdp-select can stay on branch-2.7 and it can be moved to bigtop for trunk
> > branch. Thoughts?
> >
> > Similarly, we can start-off with "python 3 only" support in trunk, whereas
> > 2.7 release line can continue with python 2 to reduce complexities for
> > maintenance releases on 2.7.
> >
> > All other points look good. Once again, thank you for drafting the roadmap
> > and starting with this thread.
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Jun 19, 2022 at 10:07 AM Battula, Brahma Reddy
> > <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi All,
> > >
> > > As Ambari back now, let’s start discussing roadmap. I will be closely
> > > tracking for Jira, GitHub(with Jenkins) and wiki to work normal.
> > > Based on the conclusion of this thread will update wiki[1].
> > >
> > > As 2.7.6 is released recently, we need to release 2.7.7
> > >
> > >
> > >   1.  Stack Management. There are two approaches for this. Open to discuss
> > > on following..
> > >      *   Entirely new stack
> > >
> > >                                                                i.
> > > Define new stack name. (BDP: BigDataPlatform, BDS:BigDataStack,
> > > OSS:OpenSourceStack,TDP: TuskerDataPlatform…)
> > >
> > >                                                              ii.
> > > Define stack versions
> > > (zk-3.5.9,Hadoop-3.2.3,hive-3.1.3,tez-0.10.1,spark-3.2..)
> > >
> > >                                                            iii.      Based
> > > above two we need to have select in bigtop code.
> > >
> > >      *   Using the existing for current release.
> > >
> > >                                                                i.
> > > Plugin the new stack into HDP self
> > >
> > >                                                              ii.
> > > Still, we can have hdp select
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I prefer the planA but planB takes less time. Users can easily adopt it
> > > upgrade their stack.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Note: Ideally bigtop mpack can be long term approach as stack id decoupled
> > > now, but currently it’s not ready for latest stack (upgrades can be risk).
> > > We’ll work in trunk for same. If this works shortly, we can choose.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >   1.  Upgrade :
> > >      *   Most of users will be deployed with HDP
> > > versions(HDP-2.6.5,HDP-3.1.0), we might need to support the upgrade to 
> > > 2.7.7
> > >   2.  Other work
> > >      *   Any critical/blocker CVE’s Fixes
> > >      *   CVEs Fixes : we’ll try to target some CVE fixes
> > >      *   Review the open PR’s and Jira’s
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Trunk Code : Parallel we can work for the trunk code, this we might give
> > > as 2.8.
> > >
> > >            *   Removal of python2 support
> > >            *   Removal of hard dependency on HDP
> > >            *   Working on bigtop mpack
> > >
> > > Can add more based on your inputs…
> > >
> > >
> > > Any thoughts on this..? Please feel free to add anything which I missed.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Reference:
> > >
> > > 1.
> > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=30755705
> > >
> > >
> > >

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