They are at the leading edge then... I have been interviewing candidates for a developer position not later than yesterday and it left me with a bitter test about software process and tools used within a team working...no source control within a team of 15 people (10 dev), etc... all that within the biggest isps and telco in the country. Frankly that scares me to death.

Oh, and when I want to add a tester to a development team some customers tell me, this this is not possible because it will make the cost too high and they are assuming that what developers do is free of defects as they tested it themselves, otherwise that means we don't have good enough people...mm..well.

It's really interesting as the people themselves are amazingly intelligent, they're pretty much all recent graduates (a couple of older developers), and they all have excellent theoretical knowledge of programming. The problem is the practice - most of them could build some amazingly funky tools, but the code would be spaghetti and as soon as they left the tool would be useless. It's getting past that mental block that they have about team development. The best of them have embraced UP and UML, but personally I have an aversion to gigantic processes and bucketloads of docs. I also pushed for (and got) Subversion installed instead of SourceSafe (thankfully). Still a big way to go for the VB programmers, but there are a few C coders whu seem to be a little more open to the ideas of builds over make. Unit testing is going to be the real problem :(

Still the talk was a success - didn't cover everything suggested, but thanks for the feedback.

Kev

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