Hi ,

I'm replying to my own mail, however the 1st paragraph of this particular
reply is in response to Peter, his message and to the point(s) he made over
on private@ regarding Git, etc.

I completely understand about your workflow and the way that you practice.
There is no issue with this. We made the effort to move to Git with the
hope that this would work better for us and it is just a shame that we've
not had more of an opportunity to test that workflow. All hope is not lost
though!

I've learnt that in the open source world, no two communities are the same.
Any23 is no exception in this regard. My issue here is not that there are
only one or two of us developing various parts of the library for our own
requirements. My issue is that the reason we develop is to push stable and
improved releases... however we can't satisfy this goal as we can barely
get ANYONE to look at the release candidate.

I don't have a problem persisting with effort within a small community.
We've done it over in Apache Gora and the project has been moving in a
positive direction for the last while now. I've tried to bring as many
positives from that experience over to Any23 as possible, but it seems that
we are really stuck in the mud here. It seems that we relied quite (maybe
too) heavily on our mentors and champions(s), who have now moved on to
other personal and strategic interests. In the resulting dust cloud, the
realization has gradually surfaced (from my perspective anyway), that we
have struggled to sustain and develop the community around Any23 and
ourselves. It now appears that review of a release candidate is not
possible as we need to obtain a level of quorum before we can progress with
release artifacts. The group of individuals that brought Any23 to the
Apache Incubator were (and hopefully are) aware of this process, and I am
optimistic that a nudge of sorts will at least enable us to VOTE and
release Any23 0.8.0.

What I would like to propose is that we raise some action(s) on where we
want to go as a community. It is not an option to let this simply fizzle
out and we do not do ourselves any justice to let things turn in that
direction.

I will roll back the 0.8.0 release candidate as there are issues we need to
deal with. After that I would like to monitor input on this thread and
really see (possibly from more experienced intervention elsewhere) where we
can take Any23.

As you may have noticed, I mentioned the attic, because it is an option for
us. We need to keep it as an option and be aware that it may be a suitable
place for Any23. This is of course IMHO directly dependent upon the input
we receive from other Any23 list observers and community participants.

Thanks

Lewis



On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 2:59 PM, Lewis John Mcgibbney <
[email protected]> wrote:

>
> **REPOSTING THIS HERE FROM PRIVATE@**
>
> Hi All,
> After debating this in my own head for some time, I thought I would bring
> it to our private@ list in the hope of invoking discussion about our
> community.
>
> I am optimistic that the Any23 community is not dead, that I am not banging
> my head off of a brick wall, and that we can build and push more releases
> in the process.
>
> I would also however like to consider myself a realist. Meaning that if the
> above is not possible then that needs to be recognized and acknowledged.
>
> The last while (move to Git resulting in the partial stagnation of the
> codebase, broken builds, etc.) has been a difficult one for Any23, however
> that is not to say that we can't turn it around.
>
> I stepped up to take on release manager role as I thought it beneficial for
> us to push a software release... this however does not seem to be gaining
> as much traction as I would have liked. We currently have one VOTE (my own)
> and one detailed analysis and comment from Andy.
>
> I am continually learning lessons of how to build community, but I can't do
> it on my own. I am asking that we (as a community and project) make a
> decision as to where we want to go, what we want the community to look
> like, and generally what is going to happen with Any23?
>
> Until now I've never uttered the words "Apache" and "Attic" in the same
> sentence on a project mailing list that I'm involved in, however I think it
> is also appropriate to mention that this is an option for Any23 should
> there not be interest to keep it going. I state this as a very very last
> resort and would personally really hate to see Any23 go there.
>
> Thanks
>
> Lewis
>



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