+1 for the general idea

Does these independent modules going to have independent versions? For
example, if there is no change in kafka operator between malhar 3.0 and
malhar 4.0, will we increment version of malhar-contrib-kafka to 4.0. I
have learned from my previous project that, It is easier to manage versions
if we make all modules at same version level for a release, even if there
is no change in a particular module.

- Tushar.



On Fri, Sep 18, 2015 at 12:18 AM, Timothy Farkas <[email protected]>
wrote:

> I agree Andy's solution is better, but just for the sake of argument
> profiles can be inherited from a parent pom, so if the maven archetype
> defines a new project with a parent pom with the correct profiles defined,
> then the desired profiles can be activated in the pom of the new project.
> It is no more complicated than adding additional dependencies to your
> project.
>
> On Thu, Sep 17, 2015 at 10:32 AM, Sandesh Hegde <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> > Currently all the dependencies in Malhar-Contrib are marked as optional.
> So
> > users have to already modify the existing POM to use it in their project.
> > So restructuring should be fine.
> >
> > On Thu, Sep 17, 2015 at 11:29 AM Chetan Narsude <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > The profiles are excellent when you are developing malhar-contrib.
> > Profiles
> > > do not work when you are using malhar-contrib. The problem Andy  is
> > trying
> > > to solve is the later. If there is an elegant solution which I am
> missing
> > > using profiles, please correct me.
> > >
> > > The way Andy suggested is the way many successful projects do it. Look
> at
> > > Netty as an example.
> > >
> > > +1 for that.
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Chetan
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Thu, Sep 17, 2015 at 11:22 AM, Timothy Farkas <[email protected]>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > I think restructuring the project in that way would be the
> technically
> > > > correct thing to do, but if people are unwilling to accept the change
> > in
> > > > project structure you could achieve something similar by using maven
> > > > profiles. With profiles the project structure would remain as is.
> > > Profiles
> > > > could be added to the malhar pom, and a profile would define the
> > > > dependencies needed for different types of operators. For example the
> > > hbase
> > > > profile would define the dependencies for the hbase operator. Then
> any
> > > > project using a malhar library would just activate the correct
> profile
> > in
> > > > it's pom, and the correct dependencies would be pulled in.
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> http://maven.apache.org/guides/introduction/introduction-to-profiles.html
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Sep 17, 2015 at 10:01 AM, Andy Perlitch <
> [email protected]>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi everyone,
> > > > >
> > > > > I am currently assigned to MLHR-1843
> > > > > <https://malhar.atlassian.net/browse/MLHR-1843>, which essentially
> > > aims
> > > > to
> > > > > expose smaller, more consumable maven artifacts that would do away
> > with
> > > > the
> > > > > need to manually include necessary dependencies based on the
> > operators
> > > in
> > > > > use.
> > > > >
> > > > > As an example, say I am building an app package that needs Kafka
> > input
> > > > and
> > > > > output operators, but I don't want all the other transitive
> > > dependencies
> > > > > that come via malhar-contrib. Currently I would need to specify
> > > > > malhar-contrib as a dependency, and add an exclusions block  in my
> > app
> > > > > package pom:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > *<dependency>  <groupId>com.datatorrent</groupId>
> > > > > <artifactId>malhar-contrib</artifactId>  <version>3.0.0</version>
> > <!--
> > > > so
> > > > > none of malhar-contrib's deps are included -->*
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > *  <exclusions>    <exclusion>      <groupId>*</groupId>
> > > > > <artifactId>*</artifactId>    </exclusion>
> > </exclusions></dependency>*
> > > > >
> > > > > Then, I would have to include the kafka library explicitly as a
> > > > dependency:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > *<dependency>  <groupId>org.apache.kafka</groupId>
> > > > > <artifactId>kafka_2.10</artifactId>
> > > > > <version>0.8.1.1</version></dependency>*
> > > > >
> > > > > Wouldn't it be nice if I could just put this in my pom?:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > *<dependency>  <groupId>com.datatorrent</groupId>
> > > > > <artifactId>malhar-contrib-kafka</artifactId>
> > > > > <version>3.0.0</version></dependency>*
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > In order to make this possible, we will need to organize the malhar
> > > > project
> > > > > into more granular modules (artifacts). Specifically, the
> > > malhar-contrib
> > > > > artifact would essentially just be a pom that specifies each
> smaller
> > > > module
> > > > > as a dependency:
> > > > >
> > > > > *<!-- in malhar-contrib's pom.xml: -->*
> > > > >
> > > > > *<modules>  <module>kafka</module>*
> > > > > *  <module>twitter</module>*
> > > > > *  <module>redis</module>*
> > > > >
> > > > > *  <!-- other smaller modules --></modules>*
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > *<dependency>  <groupId>com.datatorrent</groupId>
> > > > > <artifactId>malhar-contrib-kafka</artifactId>
> > > > > <version>3.0.0</version></dependency>*
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > *<dependency>  <groupId>com.datatorrent</groupId>
> > > > > <artifactId>malhar-contrib-twitter</artifactId>
> > > > > <version>3.0.0</version></dependency>*
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > *<dependency>  <groupId>com.datatorrent</groupId>
> > > > > <artifactId>malhar-contrib-redis</artifactId>
> > > > > <version>3.0.0</version></dependency>*
> > > > >
> > > > > With these changes, there may be a risk of breaking backwards
> > > > > compatibility, however I think the gain in usability of malhar
> merits
> > > the
> > > > > effort to make this work.
> > > > >
> > > > > I am still relatively new to maven, so I would love to get some
> > > feedback
> > > > > from other devs about this!
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Regards,
> > > > > Andy Perlitch
> > > > > Software Engineer
> > > > > DataTorrent Inc
> > > > > (408)829-9319
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

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