I think (b) would not be as intimidating as it sounds.  It's a one-time
cost.  The change is big but the they are straight forward and should take
maybe a couple hours to review but not days.  The benefit outweighs the
cost IMO.

On Wed, Oct 21, 2015 at 10:28 AM, Munagala Ramanath <[email protected]>
wrote:

> (a) is fixable :-) but only next month for me.
>
> Ram
>
> On Wed, Oct 21, 2015 at 10:21 AM, Vlad Rozov <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> > There is no question that we need to fix checkstyle violations and all 3
> > points equally apply to other approaches as well as we work towards
> > reducing number of violations and do not allow new ones. To mitigate the
> > current large number of violations I suggest to install checkstyle
> plugin.
> > It is available for all major IDEs and I guess that number of developers
> > using vi/emacs is limited :-)
> >
> > My concern with approach #1 is not that much about loosing git blame
> > (annotation in IntelliJ) information, but
> >
> > a) finding volunteer(s)
> > b) once changes are ready, how to pull them in. There is a good chance of
> > introduced conflicts while pull request is under review and because of
> > massive changes it will take time to review the commit.
> >
> > Thank you,
> >
> > Vlad
> >
> >
> > On 10/21/15 10:00, David Yan wrote:
> >
> >> I think this is exactly what we have been doing.
> >>
> >> The reasons why I think #1 is good is because:
> >>
> >> 1) When you write new code that breaks the style check, it's not obvious
> >> what specific violation the new code introduces because the code base
> has
> >> already some hundred existing violations.  I have already suffered from
> >> that many times since the stylecheck plugin was put in.
> >>
> >> 2) It's confusing to newcomers when they see part of the code is in one
> >> format and part of the code is in another, and it's displeasing to the
> >> eyes, and it does not promote consistency.
> >>
> >> 3) git blame -w ignores whitespaces, and it looks like IntelliJ does
> that
> >> too after 11.1.3: https://youtrack.jetbrains.com/issue/IDEA-55075.  We
> >> are
> >> just left with whether curly braces are on the same line for "else",
> etc.
> >> But the bottom line is, the meat of the code should still be largely
> >> attributed to the proper authors.
> >>
> >> David
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Wed, Oct 21, 2015 at 9:44 AM, Pramod Immaneni <
> [email protected]>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> I would go with a modification of 3, you could call it 4. Instead of
> >>> re-formatting the entire file that is touched, re-format the code that
> is
> >>> in and around the modified code. Leave that determination to developer
> >>> discretion. For example if you are making changes to the if block, fix
> >>> the
> >>> else as well or fix that method if the code changes you are making to
> the
> >>> method are substantial. I would not like the entire file to be changed
> as
> >>> that changes attribution without changing the logic and makes it
> >>> difficult
> >>> to find out whom to talk to when trying to inquire about a piece of
> code.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks
> >>>
> >>> On Wed, Oct 21, 2015 at 9:06 AM, Vlad Rozov <[email protected]>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I filed https://malhar.atlassian.net/browse/APEX-207 to track the
> issue.
> >>>> Please use it as parent for all check style related JIRAs/fixes.
> Anyone
> >>>>
> >>> to
> >>>
> >>>> volunteer to work on #1 approach?
> >>>>
> >>>> Thank you,
> >>>>
> >>>> Vlad
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On 10/21/15 00:28, David Yan wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> +1 for #1.
> >>>>> On Oct 20, 2015 11:15 AM, "Vlad Rozov" <[email protected]>
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> All,
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> We have a large number of existing checkstyle violations and it is
> >>>>>> cumbersome to distinguish a newly introduced violation from existing
> >>>>>> ones.
> >>>>>> We need to agree on the process to fix them and there are multiple
> >>>>>> approaches how we can do it.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> 1. Fix them all in a single commit (one commit for Core and one for
> >>>>>> Malhar). Pros: change can easily be distinguished from logical code
> >>>>>> changes. Cons: large number of changes in a single commit, hard to
> >>>>>> review.
> >>>>>> Changes and review likely to be done by developers not familiar with
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> code
> >>>
> >>>> specifics.
> >>>>>> 2. Fix as we go. Only change code style violation in modified
> places.
> >>>>>> Pros: limited amount of change. Easy to review. Cons: likely to take
> >>>>>> forever. Some part of the code may not be fixed at all.
> >>>>>> 3. Somewhat combination of 1 & 2. Fix all violations in files
> affected
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> by
> >>>
> >>>> a commit. Pros: changes likely to be done by developers familiar with
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> the
> >>>
> >>>> code. Cons: harder to distinguish between logical and style changes in
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> a
> >>>
> >>>> single commit.
> >>>>>> 4. Any other suggestions?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Independently of the approach selected, we should not allow commits
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> where
> >>>
> >>>> entire file is modified due to style modifications. Such file(s) needs
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> to
> >>>
> >>>> be fixed and committed using Malhar CI.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Thank you,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Vlad
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >
>

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