Tim,

You mean 25 is purged too?

Regards,
Ashwin.

On Tue, Dec 15, 2015 at 12:01 PM, Timothy Farkas <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Hi Ashwin,
>
> In your example, if A fails the recovery windows would be
>
> D - 15
> C - 15
> B - 15
> A - 15
>
> If C fails the recovery windows would be
>
> D -15
> C -15
> B - 25
> A - 30
>
> If every operator just reached window 30 and checkpointed, the committed
> window would be 25, and all the checkpoints before window 30 would be
> purged, but the checkpoint for window 30 would not be purged.
>
> Thanks,
> Tim
>
> On Tue, Dec 15, 2015 at 11:41 AM, Ashwin Chandra Putta <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Tim,
> >
> > Thanks, that is pretty much inline with what I was thinking. A little
> > different thought though in terms of picking the checkpoint based on
> > downstream operators. For A, is it not going to be "the checkpoint with
> the
> > largest window id that is less than or equal to the checkpoint with the
> > largest common window id (instead of largest window id) among all the
> > operators down stream to A"
> >
> > For example,
> >
> > If A -> B -> C -> D is the dag. And say, the checkpoint window count is 5
> > and the largest checkpoints are as follows.
> >
> > A - 30
> > B - 25
> > C - 20
> > D - 15
> >
> > Does A recover at 25 (checkpoint with largest window id) or 15
> (checkpoint
> > with largest common window id)?
> >
> > Also, regarding recovering at committed window id. Is it not possible in
> > the following scenario where all operators have checkpointed at 30 and
> got
> > the committed window call back. And then an operator fails before any
> > operator checkpoints further. In that case, the recovery window is 30
> > right?
> >
> > Regards,
> > Ashwin.
> >
> > On Mon, Dec 14, 2015 at 11:58 PM, Timothy Farkas <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Ashwin,
> > >
> > > The recovery checkpoint for operator A is computed by taking the
> > checkpoint
> > > with the largest window id that is less than or equal to the checkpoint
> > > with the largest window id among all the operators down stream to A.
> The
> > > output operators in a dag will always recover to their most recent
> > > checkpoint. The input operator of the dag may recover to the earliest
> > > checkpoint. Operators between the input and ouput operators could
> recover
> > > to a window in between.
> > >
> > > I don't think you can ever recover to a committed window, the earliest
> I
> > > think you can recover to is the window after the committed window (may
> be
> > > wrong on this).
> > >
> > > On Mon, Dec 14, 2015 at 11:05 PM, Ashwin Chandra Putta <
> > > [email protected]> wrote:
> > >
> > > > In the apex architecture there is concept of checkpointing and
> concept
> > of
> > > > committed when all operator have crossed a common checkpoint.
> > > >
> > > > So, in which scenarios does a given operator recover at last
> checkpoint
> > > > window vs last committed window vs some other checkpoint window in
> > > between?
> > > > --
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > > Ashwin.
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> > Regards,
> > Ashwin.
> >
>



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Regards,
Ashwin.

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