/usr/lib/apex/bin contains executables related to apex. dtcli, even though
its a symlink, for current users its still an executable. Hence for the
sake of completion, added dtcli link under /usr/lib/apex/bin.

But if you think otherwise, please let me know.

Thanks,
Chinmay.


On Mon, Feb 15, 2016 at 10:42 AM, Thomas Weise <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Why the dtcli link under lib?
>
>
> On Sun, Feb 14, 2016 at 9:09 PM, Chinmay Kolhatkar <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> > Hmmm... I get your point. In development mode, it tries to find the
> hadoop
> > executable like following:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> HADOOP_SEARCH_PATH="${HADOOP_PREFIX}/bin:${HADOOP_HOME}/bin:${PATH}:/usr/local/bin:/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/sbin:/sbin:."
> >   export DT_HADOOP=`PATH=${HADOOP_SEARCH_PATH} && command -v hadoop
> > 2>/dev/null`
> >
> > I will check with bigtop community that what is the best way to ensure
> > during installation that hadoop binary will be present in above search
> path
> > search.
> >
> > Also, I checked as you suggested, i.e. removed dt-env.sh from package and
> > tried to run the dtcli... It works!!!
> >
> > Thank you for pointing that out Thomas.
> >
> > Now I agree with you that, we can get rid of conf/dt-env.sh.. As this was
> > the only file in conf/, unless someone has anything to include in conf/
> > folder, I'll remove that too then.
> >
> > Also, this would mean, only dt* that remains in package are dtcli links
> to
> > apex script added for backward compatibility.
> > i.e following:
> >
> > /
> > `-- usr
> >     |-- bin
> >     |   |-- apex -> ../lib/apex/bin/apex
> >     |   `-- dtcli -> ../lib/apex/bin/apex
> >     |-- lib
> >     |   `-- apex
> >     |       |-- bin
> >     |       |   |-- apex   // This is the real script
> >     |       |   `-- dtcli -> apex
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Chinmay.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Feb 15, 2016 at 10:22 AM, Thomas Weise <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > I'm not convinced dt-env.sh is even needed. In development mode, the
> file
> > > doesn't exist but it will still find Hadoop.
> > >
> > > The absolute path to hadoop script was introduced to deal with the
> layout
> > > of specific distros. You will know whether that applies to Bigtop or
> not.
> > >
> > > Thomas
> > >
> > > On Sun, Feb 14, 2016 at 8:16 PM, Chinmay Kolhatkar <[email protected]
> >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi Thomas,
> > > >
> > > > There are only 2 things that are required from dt-env.sh:
> > > > 1. DT_HADOOP variable which is exported by dt-env.sh This variable
> has
> > > > absolute path for hadoop binary
> > > > 2. A find_hadoop() method which find the path of hadoop binary.
> > > >
> > > > JAVA_HOME is not required for this.
> > > >
> > > > The idea is not to change the dtcli. Current dtcli (in apex
> > > > 3.3.0-incubating src code), sources dt-env.sh for above 2
> information.
> > > > Hence included dt-env.sh
> > > >
> > > > If the community agrees, we can make dtcli more generic so that in
> > future
> > > > packing of bigtop, dt-env.sh can be completely excluded OR at least
> > > change
> > > > the name to apex-env.sh.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Chinmay.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Sun, Feb 14, 2016 at 7:55 AM, Thomas Weise <
> [email protected]>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Chinmay,
> > > > >
> > > > > Can you please specify what settings in dt-env.sh are required in a
> > > > bigtop
> > > > > environment?
> > > > >
> > > > > Location of hadoop and JAVA_HOME should be provided by the stack
> > > already?
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > Thomas
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 7:04 PM, Chinmay Kolhatkar <
> > [email protected]
> > > >
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Here is a suggestion I have related to name change:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 1. While packaging we change the name of "dtcli" script to
> "apex".
> > > This
> > > > > is
> > > > > > done so that in future when we change the name to "apex", users
> of
> > > > bigtop
> > > > > > apex don't have to transition much.
> > > > > > 2. We also keep a symlink named dtcli which points to apex
> script.
> > > This
> > > > > is
> > > > > > for backward compatibility.
> > > > > > 3. We still keep conf/dt-env.sh for first integration in bigtop.
> > This
> > > > is
> > > > > in
> > > > > > the interest of not changing the content of dtcli or apex script.
> > > > > > 4. In apex 3.4.0, we take care of all these naming related
> changes
> > > and
> > > > > > update bigtop repository later to remove references to dtcli all
> > > > > together.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Please share your thoughts on above approach.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Also, please share what could be the man page content for "apex".
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > Chinmay.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Sat, Feb 13, 2016 at 8:17 AM, Chinmay Kolhatkar <
> > > [email protected]
> > > > >
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Yes.. It'll be build from source tar downloaded from one of the
> > > > apache
> > > > > > > mirror: apache.osuosl.org
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The reason for dt-env.sh is it's sourced from dtcli. This
> leaves
> > > us 3
> > > > > > > options:
> > > > > > > If we should not have any dt-env.sh, dtcli would need a change
> > > while
> > > > > > > packaging.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > But if we want to use dtcli as it is, then we would need
> > dt-env.sh
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Sat, Feb 13, 2016 at 8:07 AM, Thomas Weise <
> > > > [email protected]>
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> Looks good overall, though there shouldn't be any dt-env.sh
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> What will the bigtop package be built from, the source tar?
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 6:31 PM, Chinmay Kolhatkar <
> > > > > [email protected]>
> > > > > > >> wrote:
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> > Hi Thomas,
> > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > >> > Thanks for the feedback.
> > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > >> > First, we're not changing the name anywhere. We'll follow
> what
> > > > > > >> currently is
> > > > > > >> > in source tarball for 3.3.0-incubating version.
> > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > >> > Secondly, I've mentioned a directory structure below which
> is
> > > > inline
> > > > > > >> with
> > > > > > >> > other existing integrations with bigtop.
> > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > >> > The need for each file is as follows:
> > > > > > >> > 1. bin/dtcli -> CLI for apex picked from
> > > engine/src/main/scripts/
> > > > of
> > > > > > >> source
> > > > > > >> > code apex 3.3.0-incubating.
> > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > >> > 2. conf/dt-env.sh -> This is source from dtcli. This
> searches
> > > for
> > > > > > hadoop
> > > > > > >> > binary path and exports an env variable for dtcli to use it.
> > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > >> > 3. lib/ -> Libraries for CLI. This list is extracted in a
> > > similar
> > > > > way
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > >> > how DT Community Edition finds dependency jars.
> > > > > > >> > Please note that this is the first iteration list of jars.
> I'm
> > > > > trying
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > >> > narrow this down to only those which are really required.
> > > > > > >> > The test that I'm running to check if dtcli runs fine with
> > given
> > > > > > >> dependency
> > > > > > >> > is to launch+shutdown+kill+status for pi demo.
> > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > >> > Above is the directory structure which is required for CLI
> to
> > > > work.
> > > > > > >> > What aniruddha and pradeep has mentioned are some additional
> > > files
> > > > > > which
> > > > > > >> > makes the like of administrator easier. For eg. /etc/skel
> > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > >> > Please let me know if this is inline with what you're
> > thinking.
> > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > >> > Thanks,
> > > > > > >> > Chinmay.
> > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > >> > .
> > > > > > >> > |-- bin
> > > > > > >> > |   `-- dtcli
> > > > > > >> > |-- conf
> > > > > > >> > |   `-- dt-env.sh
> > > > > > >> > `-- lib
> > > > > > >> >     |-- ant-1.9.2.jar
> > > > > > >> >     |-- ant-launcher-1.9.2.jar
> > > > > > >> >     |-- apex-api-3.3.0-incubating.jar
> > > > > > >> >     |-- apex-bufferserver-3.3.0-incubating.jar
> > > > > > >> >     |-- apex-common-3.3.0-incubating.jar
> > > > > > >> >     |-- apex-engine.jar
> > > > > > >> >     |-- apex-engine-tests.jar
> > > > > > >> >     |-- async-http-client-1.7.20.jar
> > > > > > >> >     |-- bval-core-0.5.jar
> > > > > > >> >     |-- bval-jsr303-0.5.jar
> > > > > > >> >     |-- commons-beanutils-1.8.3.jar
> > > > > > >> >     |-- commons-codec-1.10.jar
> > > > > > >> >     |-- commons-lang3-3.1.jar
> > > > > > >> >     |-- commons-logging-1.1.3.jar
> > > > > > >> >     |-- grizzly-http-servlet-2.1.2.jar
> > > > > > >> >     |-- hadoop-common-2.2.0-tests.jar
> > > > > > >> >     |-- httpclient-4.3.5.jar
> > > > > > >> >     |-- httpcore-4.3.2.jar
> > > > > > >> >     |-- jackson-core-asl-1.9.2.jar
> > > > > > >> >     |-- jackson-mapper-asl-1.9.2.jar
> > > > > > >> >     |-- javax.servlet-3.1.jar
> > > > > > >> >     |-- javax.servlet-api-3.0.1.jar
> > > > > > >> >     |-- jersey-apache-client4-1.9.jar
> > > > > > >> >     |-- jersey-client-1.9.jar
> > > > > > >> >     |-- jetty-http-8.1.10.v20130312.jar
> > > > > > >> >     |-- jetty-io-8.1.10.v20130312.jar
> > > > > > >> >     |-- jetty-util-8.1.10.v20130312.jar
> > > > > > >> >     |-- jetty-websocket-8.1.10.v20130312.jar
> > > > > > >> >     |-- jline-2.11.jar
> > > > > > >> >     |-- kryo-2.24.0.jar
> > > > > > >> >     |-- mbassador-1.1.9.jar
> > > > > > >> >     |-- minlog-1.2.jar
> > > > > > >> >     |-- netlet-1.2.0.jar
> > > > > > >> >     |-- netty-3.6.6.Final.jar
> > > > > > >> >     |-- objenesis-2.1.jar
> > > > > > >> >     |-- validation-api-1.1.0.Final.jar
> > > > > > >> >     |-- xbean-asm5-shaded-4.3.jar
> > > > > > >> >     `-- zip4j-1.3.2.jar
> > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > >> > 3 directories, 40 files
> > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > >> > On Sat, Feb 13, 2016 at 3:24 AM, Thomas Weise <
> > > > > [email protected]
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > wrote:
> > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > >> > > Chinmay,
> > > > > > >> > >
> > > > > > >> > > Before discussing where to put the files, let's make sure
> > they
> > > > are
> > > > > > >> really
> > > > > > >> > > needed for the operation of the CLI. As for names,
> anything
> > > new
> > > > > > needs
> > > > > > >> to
> > > > > > >> > > reflect Apex in the name and should follow common
> > conventions,
> > > > > > >> especially
> > > > > > >> > > in Bigtop where there are many existing integrations to
> look
> > > at.
> > > > > > >> > >
> > > > > > >> > > Thanks,
> > > > > > >> > > Thomas
> > > > > > >> > >
> > > > > > >> > >
> > > > > > >> > > On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 8:07 AM, Chinmay Kolhatkar <
> > > > > > >> > > [email protected]>
> > > > > > >> > > wrote:
> > > > > > >> > >
> > > > > > >> > > > Really good points Pradeep and Aniruddha.
> > > > > > >> > > >
> > > > > > >> > > > 1. I believe we won't need to change the dtcli
> considering
> > > it
> > > > > > works
> > > > > > >> > with
> > > > > > >> > > DT
> > > > > > >> > > > Community edition. We can keep the directory structure
> > > similar
> > > > > to
> > > > > > >> that.
> > > > > > >> > > > dt-env.sh has variables which contains information
> > required
> > > > for
> > > > > > >> dtcli
> > > > > > >> > to
> > > > > > >> > > > launch.
> > > > > > >> > > >
> > > > > > >> > > > 2. Let me check with bigtop community that whether they
> > > > > facilitate
> > > > > > >> the
> > > > > > >> > > > installation of rpms/debs before user is created. In
> > either
> > > > > case,
> > > > > > >> > current
> > > > > > >> > > > dtcli creates a .dt folder in home directory. Also
> before
> > > > > putting
> > > > > > >> > > anything
> > > > > > >> > > > in /etc/skel we need to define what are the default
> > contents
> > > > > that
> > > > > > >> > should
> > > > > > >> > > go
> > > > > > >> > > > to ~/.dt/ folder. If there is no defaults, probably we
> > > should
> > > > > not
> > > > > > >> > > > explicitly add it in /etc/skel.
> > > > > > >> > > >
> > > > > > >> > > > 3.  /etc/profile.d approach looks nice. This way
> contents
> > of
> > > > > > >> dt-env.sh
> > > > > > >> > > are
> > > > > > >> > > > present as env variables. But I see a catch there.
> Adding
> > > > > > dt-env.sh
> > > > > > >> to
> > > > > > >> > > > /etc/profile.d would make all the variables available at
> > > > runtime
> > > > > > all
> > > > > > >> > the
> > > > > > >> > > > time. I feel a little skeptical about that. Maybe a
> > possible
> > > > > > >> collision
> > > > > > >> > > can
> > > > > > >> > > > occur with other application vars.
> > > > > > >> > > > Moreover, current dtcli does source "../conf/dt-env.sh"
> > and
> > > > > > >> > > > "~/.dt/dt-env.sh". So those variables are anyway
> > available.
> > > > > > >> > > >
> > > > > > >> > > > @Aniruddha, the Jira and PR effort is happening at
> Bigtop
> > > > > > >> > > Jira/repository.
> > > > > > >> > > > Packaging related code usually goes there. (That's what
> > all
> > > > the
> > > > > > >> > > components
> > > > > > >> > > > in bigtop does).
> > > > > > >> > > > Having said that, once a PR is created, I'll be sharing
> > the
> > > > link
> > > > > > of
> > > > > > >> PR
> > > > > > >> > > > here, so that apex community as well can review it.
> > > > > > >> > > >
> > > > > > >> > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > >> > > > Chinmay.
> > > > > > >> > > >
> > > > > > >> > > >
> > > > > > >> > > > On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 7:57 PM, Aniruddha Thombare <
> > > > > > >> > > > [email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > > >> > > >
> > > > > > >> > > > > +1 on suggestions and approach.
> > > > > > >> > > > > We may need to iron out details about exact paths etc.
> > > > > > >> > > > > Which can be done on jira / PR comments.
> > > > > > >> > > > > Is that right @dev?
> > > > > > >> > > > >
> > > > > > >> > > > >
> > > > > > >> > > > >
> > > > > > >> > > > > On Wed, 10 Feb 2016 7:53 pm Pradeep A. Dalvi <
> > > > > > >> > [email protected]>
> > > > > > >> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >> > > > >
> > > > > > >> > > > > > Inline comments...
> > > > > > >> > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > > > > > On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 2:51 PM, Chinmay Kolhatkar <
> > > > > > >> > > > > > [email protected]>
> > > > > > >> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >> > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > @Thomas, Not all the jar present in DT community
> > > edition
> > > > > > will
> > > > > > >> be
> > > > > > >> > > > > included
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > there.
> > > > > > >> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Here is the list of jars I found from common
> > > > dependencies
> > > > > > >> between
> > > > > > >> > > of
> > > > > > >> > > > > apex
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > and DT Community edition:
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > netlet-1.2.0.jar
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > kryo-2.24.0.jar
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > jackson-core-asl-1.9.2.jar
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > jackson-mapper-asl-1.9.2.jar
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > async-http-client-1.7.20.jar
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > netty-3.6.6.Final.jar
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > validation-api-1.1.0.Final.jar
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > bval-jsr303-0.5.jar
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > bval-core-0.5.jar
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > commons-lang3-3.1.jar
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > commons-beanutils-1.8.3.jar
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > httpclient-4.3.5.jar
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > commons-codec-1.10.jar
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > zip4j-1.3.2.jar
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > jetty-websocket-8.1.10.v20130312.jar
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > xbean-asm5-shaded-4.3.jar
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > jersey-apache-client4-1.9.jar
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > jline-2.11.jar
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > ant-1.9.2.jar
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > ant-launcher-1.9.2.jar
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > mbassador-1.1.9.jar
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > jackson-jaxrs-1.9.2.jar
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > jackson-xc-1.9.2.jar
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > hadoop-common-2.2.0-tests.jar
> > > > > > >> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Ofcourse, I'll be running some tests do check that
> > > dtcli
> > > > > > works
> > > > > > >> > > > properly
> > > > > > >> > > > > > for
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > launch+shutdown+kill of apps with only these
> > libraries
> > > > > > >> present in
> > > > > > >> > > > > > isolation
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > without dependency on local m2.
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > I'm believe that there are unwanted jars which are
> > > used
> > > > > for
> > > > > > >> > compile
> > > > > > >> > > > > time
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > dependency and not runtime in above list which I
> can
> > > > drop
> > > > > to
> > > > > > >> keep
> > > > > > >> > > > > package
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > size minimal.
> > > > > > >> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > @Anniruddha,
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > 1. dt-env.sh -> I'm not sure if all of the
> dt-env.sh
> > > is
> > > > > > >> required.
> > > > > > >> > > > Only
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > required values I see in it are classpath. and
> dtcli
> > > is
> > > > > > >> capable
> > > > > > >> > of
> > > > > > >> > > > > > building
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > it on the fly.
> > > > > > >> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > 2. dt-site.xml -> Yes, we'll have to see how dtcli
> > can
> > > > > find
> > > > > > >> the
> > > > > > >> > jar
> > > > > > >> > > > > path,
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > dt-env.sh and all such conf files. If we need a
> > change
> > > > in
> > > > > > >> dtcli,
> > > > > > >> > > then
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > community's opinion is required for whether dtcli
> > > should
> > > > > > >> change
> > > > > > >> > in
> > > > > > >> > > > our
> > > > > > >> > > > > > repo
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > or a copy of that with required changes exist in
> > > bigtop
> > > > > repo
> > > > > > >> > until
> > > > > > >> > > we
> > > > > > >> > > > > > make
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > the dtcli generic enough.
> > > > > > >> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > > > > > Can we have these file paths set using environment
> > > > variables
> > > > > > >> with
> > > > > > >> > > some
> > > > > > >> > > > > > default values in dtcli?
> > > > > > >> > > > > > Then we can set such params in dt-env.sh.
> > > > > > >> > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > 3. dt-sited.xml -> How is this file different from
> > > > > > >> dt-site.xml?
> > > > > > >> > Not
> > > > > > >> > > > > sure
> > > > > > >> > > > > > if
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > adding in /etc/skel would help. Files & Dirs from
> > > > > /etc/skel
> > > > > > >> are
> > > > > > >> > > > copied
> > > > > > >> > > > > to
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > home of new user when useradd program is called.
> But
> > > for
> > > > > > >> existing
> > > > > > >> > > > users
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > this won't be of any use. Moreover, dtcli creates
> > > ~/.dt/
> > > > > on
> > > > > > >> the
> > > > > > >> > fly
> > > > > > >> > > > if
> > > > > > >> > > > > > not
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > encountered for the first time. Again correct me
> if
> > > I'm
> > > > > > wrong.
> > > > > > >> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > > > > > Yes, you are right. However this would probably be
> > > > necessary
> > > > > > >> step
> > > > > > >> > for
> > > > > > >> > > > > > rpm/deb, as they may also get installed during OS
> > > install
> > > > > and
> > > > > > >> > before
> > > > > > >> > > > user
> > > > > > >> > > > > > accounts were created.
> > > > > > >> > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > 4. Changing bashrc & bash_profile -> I'm not sure
> > its
> > > > the
> > > > > > best
> > > > > > >> > > idea.
> > > > > > >> > > > > > We'll
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > anyway put dtcli in location which is by default
> > > present
> > > > > in
> > > > > > >> path
> > > > > > >> > > i.e.
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > /usr/bin.
> > > > > > >> > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > > > > > For other env variables specific to apex, I'll
> prefer
> > to
> > > > use
> > > > > > >> > > dt-env.sh
> > > > > > >> > > > > and
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > source it in dtcli rather than changing bashrc
> > etc...
> > > > > > >> > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > > > > > Instead, coping dt-env.sh to /etc/profile.d/ shall
> be
> > > the
> > > > > > >> cleaner
> > > > > > >> > way
> > > > > > >> > > > to
> > > > > > >> > > > > > achieve the same.
> > > > > > >> > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Chinmay.
> > > > > > >> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 1:07 PM, Aniruddha
> Thombare
> > <
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > [email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > > >> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > @Chinmay,
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > We need to consider following:
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > System wide default config files can be located
> at
> > > > > > following
> > > > > > >> > > > > locations:
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > /etc/apex/dt-env.sh  (we may have to change
> dtcli
> > > > > > behaviour
> > > > > > >> on
> > > > > > >> > > how
> > > > > > >> > > > it
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > finds
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > those locations)
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > /etc/apex/dt-site.xml (we may have to change
> dtcli
> > > > > > >> behaviour on
> > > > > > >> > > how
> > > > > > >> > > > > it
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > finds those locations)
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > /etc/skel/.dt/dt-sited.xml and other files (for
> > new
> > > > > users
> > > > > > >> that
> > > > > > >> > > will
> > > > > > >> > > > > be
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > created in system in future.)
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > We may also have to modify bashrc / bashprofile
> > for
> > > > > > >> population
> > > > > > >> > > any
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > variables that are required.
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > @dev, please put in your comments / suggestion.
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Aniruddha
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 1:16 AM, Thomas Weise <
> > > > > > >> > > > > [email protected]>
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > -->
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 9:05 AM, Chinmay
> > Kolhatkar
> > > <
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > [email protected]
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Hello Everyone!!
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Continuing with packaging effort (rpm+deb)
> of
> > > > apex,
> > > > > > here
> > > > > > >> > are
> > > > > > >> > > > some
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > proposals
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > about package structure etc..
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Before posting it on bbigtop mailing list, I
> > > have
> > > > > some
> > > > > > >> > > question
> > > > > > >> > > > > for
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > apex
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > community.
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Proposed Directory structure of apex package
> > for
> > > > > both
> > > > > > >> deb &
> > > > > > >> > > > rpm:
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > /usr/lib/apex/bin/dtcli
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > /usr/lib/apex/lib/apex-api-<version>.jar
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > /usr/lib/apex/lib/apex-engine-<version>.jar
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >
> > > /usr/lib/apex/lib/apex-bufferserver-<version>.jar
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > /usr/lib/apex/lib/apex-common-<version>.jar
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > /usr/lib/apex/lib/<other dependent jars>
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > /usr/bin/dtcli -> /usr/lib/apex/bin/dtcli
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > /usr/share/doc/man/man1/dtcli.1.gz
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > /usr/share/doc/apex/license/LICENSE.txt
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >
> > > /usr/share/doc/apex/license/<package>-LICENSE.txt
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > /usr/share/doc/apex/CHANGELOG
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > /usr/share/doc/apex/NOTICE
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > <version> = 3.3.0-incubating.
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > <other dependent jars> = All the 3rd party
> > jars
> > > > > which
> > > > > > >> are
> > > > > > >> > > > > required
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > for
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > apex
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > to run. Usually the dependencies are
> packaged
> > as
> > > > > part
> > > > > > of
> > > > > > >> > > > rpm/deb
> > > > > > >> > > > > by
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > any
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > software in bigtop.
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Can you specify what those jars are in Bigtop
> > > > context?
> > > > > > >> Same
> > > > > > >> > as
> > > > > > >> > > > > > shipped
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > with
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > DT community addition under lib/ ?
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > <package LICENSE> = Licenses of
> corresponding
> > of
> > > > 3rd
> > > > > > >> party
> > > > > > >> > > jars
> > > > > > >> > > > > > which
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > needs
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > to included while packaging.
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Questions related to this:
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > 1. Should we call the cli of apex as "apex"
> > > > instead
> > > > > of
> > > > > > >> > > "dtcli"
> > > > > > >> > > > in
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > bigtop
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > package?
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > I think we should keep the name until we are
> > able
> > > to
> > > > > > >> change
> > > > > > >> > it
> > > > > > >> > > in
> > > > > > >> > > > > > Apex.
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Otherwise this may get confusing.
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > 2. I see that all softwares in bigtop have
> man
> > > > page
> > > > > > for
> > > > > > >> > their
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > executables.
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > I think we should have it too for dtcli. Is
> > > there
> > > > > any
> > > > > > >> > > > > documentation
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > which I
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > can convert to man page? or can I use output
> > of
> > > > > "dtcli
> > > > > > >> > > --help"?
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > 3. Do we want to call version of apex in
> > Bigtop
> > > as
> > > > > > >> 3.3.0 OR
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > 3.3.0-incubating?
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Has to be -incubating
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > 4. Is it ok for apex package of bigtop to
> > depend
> > > > on
> > > > > > >> 2.7.1
> > > > > > >> > > > > version
> > > > > > >> > > > > > of
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > bigtop hadoop? Any problems that we see with
> > > this
> > > > > > >> > dependency?
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Should work without changed. I thought we
> > > certified
> > > > > > >> against
> > > > > > >> > > > 2.7.0?
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > 5. Following is the apache mirror from which
> > > > bigtop
> > > > > > will
> > > > > > >> > pick
> > > > > > >> > > > the
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > apex
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > source for compilation and packaging. Please
> > > > correct
> > > > > > if
> > > > > > >> > > > > incorrect:
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > >
> http://apache.osuosl.org/incubator/apex/v3.3.0-incubating/
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >     NOTE: apache.osuosl.org is the mirror
> > used
> > > by
> > > > > all
> > > > > > >> the
> > > > > > >> > > > > > softwares
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > in
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > bigtop.
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Please share your opinion.
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Chinmay.
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Feb 8, 2016 at 11:19 AM, Chinmay
> > > > Kolhatkar <
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > [email protected]>
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Yes.. Starting to work on the packaging.
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > I've already started discussion on bigtop
> > dev
> > > > > > mailing
> > > > > > >> > list
> > > > > > >> > > > for
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > integration. Also created a Jira for the
> > same.
> > > > For
> > > > > > >> this
> > > > > > >> > > > > > communities
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > reference, here is the bigtop Jira:
> > > BIGTOP-2313.
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Feb 8, 2016 at 1:13 AM, Thomas
> > Weise <
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > [email protected]
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> Chinmay,
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> I don't see anything under prerequisites
> > that
> > > > > would
> > > > > > >> be a
> > > > > > >> > > > > > problem.
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > We
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> looked
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> at the ASF licencing compatibility as
> part
> > of
> > > > > > >> becoming
> > > > > > >> > an
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > incubator
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> project.
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> Please focus on the packaging during the
> > next
> > > > > > weeks.
> > > > > > >> > Since
> > > > > > >> > > > the
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > work
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > will
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> be
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> part of Bigtop, related discussions and
> > JIRAs
> > > > > > should
> > > > > > >> > also
> > > > > > >> > > be
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > there.
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> Would be good to have the packaging in
> > place
> > > by
> > > > > end
> > > > > > >> Feb.
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> Thanks,
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> Thomas
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> On Thu, Feb 4, 2016 at 10:14 AM, Chinmay
> > > > > Kolhatkar
> > > > > > <
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> [email protected]>
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> wrote:
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > Hi All,
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > We're planning a work on adding Apache
> > Apex
> > > > as
> > > > > a
> > > > > > >> > > component
> > > > > > >> > > > > to
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Apache
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > Bigtop.
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > Bigtop is the packaging system for the
> > > Apache
> > > > > big
> > > > > > >> data
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > ecosystem.
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> Several
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > Hadoop distros use it, most recently
> EMR.
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > Here is the tracking Jira task in
> > APEXCORE
> > > > for
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > >> > same:
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/APEXCORE-331
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > Proposed plan of execution is as
> follows:
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > *Step 1) Handle prerequisites*
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > Apache bigtop has some hard and soft
> > > > > expectation
> > > > > > >> for
> > > > > > >> > new
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > components
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> get
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > integrated into Bigtop.
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > Here is the list of it:
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > > > >
> > > > > > >> > > >
> > > > > > >> > >
> > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/BIGTOP/Requirement+for+adding+a+new+component+to+Bigtop+distribution
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > Most of them seems to be standard ASF
> > based
> > > > > > >> > > requirements,
> > > > > > >> > > > > but
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > few
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > need
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> to
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > be checked for:
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > 1. Software projects are expected to be
> > > > > Licensed
> > > > > > >> under
> > > > > > >> > > > > Apache
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > License,
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > Version 2.0 (and their dependencies are
> > > > > expected
> > > > > > >> to be
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > compatible
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > with
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> this
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > license)
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >     - Apex is under ASL 2.0 but need to
> > > check
> > > > > if
> > > > > > >> > > > > dependencies
> > > > > > >> > > > > > of
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Apex
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> are
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > compatible with ASL 2.0. This I guess
> > would
> > > > be
> > > > > a
> > > > > > >> > > > > verification
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > check.
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > 2. Software projects are expected to be
> > > > > > compatible
> > > > > > >> > with
> > > > > > >> > > > all
> > > > > > >> > > > > of
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > supported platforms that Bigtop
> > > distribution
> > > > is
> > > > > > >> > > targeting
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >     - This needs verifying whether our
> > > > software
> > > > > > >> runs
> > > > > > >> > > fine
> > > > > > >> > > > in
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > centos-6
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > centos-7 fedora-20 ubuntu-14.04
> debian-8
> > > > > > >> > opensuse-13.2.
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > 3. What smoke tests that should be
> added
> > > for
> > > > > > >> > deployment.
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > 4. Identifying the test artifacts which
> > > goes
> > > > > > beyond
> > > > > > >> > > smoke
> > > > > > >> > > > > test
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >     - These are basically the
> integration
> > > > tests
> > > > > > for
> > > > > > >> > > > > > verification
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > after
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> the
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > deployment. This is a soft requirement,
> > but
> > > > aim
> > > > > > is
> > > > > > >> to
> > > > > > >> > > > > achieve
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > this
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > as
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> well
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > or at least have explanation why not to
> > > > > include.
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > If there are any from the link which
> > > > explicitly
> > > > > > >> needs
> > > > > > >> > to
> > > > > > >> > > > be
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > checked
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> other
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > than above 4, please let us know.
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > *Step 2) Adding Apex as component to
> > > Bigtop*
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > From one of the mail archive of Bigtop,
> > it
> > > > was
> > > > > > >> learnt
> > > > > > >> > > that
> > > > > > >> > > > > the
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > bigtop
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > community want to see the addition of
> new
> > > > > > >> components
> > > > > > >> > in
> > > > > > >> > > > > > phases.
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Here
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > are
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > the phases:
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > 1. Packaging
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >     - This needs creating of package
> i.e.
> > > > rpm &
> > > > > > deb
> > > > > > >> > > files.
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >     - documentations/READMEs, LICENSE,
> > > > > DISCLAMER,
> > > > > > >> > NOTES
> > > > > > >> > > > etc
> > > > > > >> > > > > if
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > any
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> needed.
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >     - Any documentation that need to be
> > > added
> > > > > to
> > > > > > >> > > > > distribution
> > > > > > >> > > > > > of
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > our
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > software.
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >     - Any license information of
> > > dependencies
> > > > > > >> required
> > > > > > >> > > to
> > > > > > >> > > > be
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > added
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > package
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > 2. Smoke tests (at very least)
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >     - Adding smoke test for packaging.
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > 3. Puppet recipes for automatic
> > deployment
> > > > and
> > > > > > >> > > > configuration
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >     - Add puppet recipes for automatic
> > > > > deployment
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > 4. Integration tests
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >     - For verification of deployments.
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > 5. license clearance:
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >     Run 'gradle rat' to make sure all
> new
> > > > stuff
> > > > > > is
> > > > > > >> > > > compliant
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > with
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > ASF
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > license requirements. If you add code
> > > > licenses
> > > > > > >> under
> > > > > > >> > > > > different
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > licenses,
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > those would need to be listed in the
> > > NOTICE.
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > Please share your thoughts on the
> > approach.
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > We'll start corresponding communication
> > on
> > > > > bigtop
> > > > > > >> > > mailing
> > > > > > >> > > > > list
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > as
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > well.
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > We have some specific
> > questions/suggestions
> > > > > > >> related to
> > > > > > >> > > > what
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > should
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > be
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> the
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > content of the package and what should
> be
> > > the
> > > > > > smoke
> > > > > > >> > > tests,
> > > > > > >> > > > > but
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > in
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > interest of not having too much content
> > > here,
> > > > > > we'll
> > > > > > >> > put
> > > > > > >> > > > the
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > questions
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> as a
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > separate mail in this mailthread.
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > Thanks,
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > Chinmay.
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >
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