Hi, Bisakh.

Glad to you can support my idea!
At present, I have created a PR [1] to do this work, which has not
been completed yet. After that, you can review it.

[1] https://github.com/apache/apisix-dashboard/pull/2183

Best regards!
Zeping Bai  @bzp2010

Bisakh Mondal <[email protected]> 于2021年10月26日周二 下午7:24写道:

> Hi Zeping,
>
> Thanks for clarifying the doubts. If we are focussing on RPM and Deb based
> systems then removing the complexity might be a good option. You are right,
> for docker we don't have to do anything, everything will be handled by the
> docker runtime.
>  In case everyone agrees with the proposal, feel free to use the [1]
> systemd unit file. I had already worked on it earlier, it works. Also,
> these ([2], [3]) are the PRs where we had integrated the daemon management
> with manager API. Hopefully, it would be easy for you to find and revert
> the changes that were made.
>
> Thank you!
> Best,
> Bisakh  (https://github.com/bisakhmondal)
>
> [1]
>
> https://github.com/bisakhmondal/apisix-dashboard/blob/636009a1bccfb91acc6862a7f35bc9d3ad827cba/api/manager-api.service
> [2] https://github.com/apache/apisix-dashboard/pull/1667
> [3] https://github.com/apache/apisix-dashboard/pull/1885
>
> On Tue, 26 Oct 2021 at 16:30, Zeping Bai <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Hi, Bisakh. I'm glad to see your reply.
> >
> > *First of all, I think it is completely right to focus on *
> >
> > *the development of dashboard's own functions. *
> >
> > *# remove built-in module*
> > The reason I want to remove this built-in module is because I have
> recently
> > answer many question of usage issues with this (for various reasons the
> > Manager API does not start or stop correctly), It seems that its
> > reliability is
> > not good, and it is not easy to debug.
> >
> > *# service manager*
> > Yes, I know there are many other service managers that make it easy for
> > users to add adapted service files to their systems. The templates for
> > systemd
> > are provided because we currently provide installation files in RPM
> format
> > and new versions of RHEL and CentOS systems are using systemd. Debian
> > and Ubuntu also use it, this is the choice for most server systems used
> in
> > production environments. We will build in the service file in the RPM
> > package.
> > For users using other systems, they can add service management functions
> > for their own platform.
> > For small-scale users, docker is a more convenient choice. In docker, we
> > don't
> > need to use service management, just run the program directly.
> >
> > Best regards!
> > Zeping Bai  @bzp2010
> >
> > Bisakh Mondal <[email protected]> 于2021年10月26日周二 下午5:37写道:
> >
> > > Hi Zeping,
> > >
> > > Thanks for your nice proposal. But I am not sure if removing the go
> > module
> > > and introducing service files would be a good alternative.
> > > The thing is that not every Unix system uses systemd as an init system
> > > there are other service management systems like SysV, Launchd, Upstart.
> > > Windows have a service control manager.
> > > Now I personally think, we shouldn't write and manage the lifecycle of
> > > multiple service files inside Manager-API as we have to continuously
> work
> > > on keeping them up-to-date, fixing bugs etc. Also, this would make an
> > > automated process (for the end-user) to a tedious manual task as after
> > the
> > > refactoring users need to know how to load, unload, stop service files
> > with
> > > that particular service manager.
> > >
> > > Instead, we could find a good alternative for the `takama/daemon`
> package
> > > if it is not suitable for the current need. Let the respective
> developers
> > > of that project handle the related problems with that package and we
> just
> > > focus on improving the manager-api.
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Bisakh (https://github.com/bisakhmondal)
> > >
> > > On Tue, 26 Oct 2021 at 10:49, Bozhong Yu <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >
> > > > +1. The daemon brings some other problems, for example a user
> > unfamiliar
> > > > with APISIX Dashboard's Manager API may install the daemon by
> mistake.
> > > This
> > > > will keep the manager-api in the OS and cannot be killed.
> > > >
> > > > Zeping Bai <[email protected]> 于2021年10月26日周二 下午12:16写道:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi, everyone.
> > > > >
> > > > > At present, the back end of APISIX Dashboard's Manager API uses a
> go
> > > > module
> > > > > to realize the built-in service daemon management. It is completely
> > > > > implemented
> > > > > by programming, which brings many use problems.
> > > > >
> > > > > Now, we can remove this part of the code and use the native way of
> > > > > container or
> > > > > systemd to manage the lifecycle of the Manager API program. Here is
> > my
> > > > > proposal
> > > > > [1]. Developers interested in it can review and participate in the
> > > > > discussion.
> > > > >
> > > > > [1] https://github.com/apache/apisix-dashboard/issues/2185
> > > > >
> > > > > Best regards!
> > > > > Zeping Bai  @bzp2010
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

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