On Tue, 27 Aug 2002, Aaron Bannert wrote: > On Tue, Aug 27, 2002 at 08:02:51PM +0200, Dirk-Willem van Gulik wrote: > > Actually; no - the Board gave the APR crowd a well defined charter (or > > rather, the APR folks came with a very well defined set of things they > > wanted to work on - and hence got their PMC in the ASF umbrella). > > > > Changing that charter will require this community to do some very deep > > thinking :-) and possibly you'll have to put things in perspective or > > reconsider to prevent bloat, feature creep, version # aligement problems > > with your dependencies and general quality. > > > > Right now your charter keeps you out of such troubled waters: > > > > The mission of the Apache Portable Runtime (APR) is to provide a > > free library of C data structures and routines, forming a system > > portability layer to as many operating systems as possible, > > including Unices, MSWin32, BeOS and OS/2. > > > > rather nicely. > > Hmm.. how do we justify apr-util, and even moreso, how did serf get > approved (especially if it is HTTP-centric)?
apr-util was created to move non-portability code out of APR, but since the logic was all portable, and the features were considered useful, and they are found in other portability run-times, we decided that they could live in the APR project. As for apr-serf, it was controversial when it was created, and it is in the wrong project. I said as much when it was created, and the fact that nobody commits code to it just proves the point. > To me it seems that el-kabong is a natural sibling of apr-util -- both > are a set of portable utilities which are dependent on our portability > layer, and applicable to a wide variety of projects. look in other portable run-times, and you will find logic for tables, hashes, queues, etc. I challenge you to find one that has HTML parsing logic. > I won't stop it from being part of HTTPD, but I do want to start > thinking about our projects in terms of functionality rather than > language or protocol. But the "functionality" for APR is a portable run-time, not every library that we can think to write. Ryan _______________________________________________________________________________ Ryan Bloom [EMAIL PROTECTED] 550 Jean St Oakland CA 94610 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
