On 02 Apr 2012, at 2:35 AM, Greg Stein wrote:
> My point is that svn:mergeinfo is not a replacement for proper branch 
> management and helpful log messages.
> 
We're not talking about proper branch management and helpful log messages, both 
of which are a given. Instead we're talking about duplicating the revision 
recorded within svn:mergeinfo inside the log message. I was under the 
impression this duplication wasn't necessary, and that someone needing to know 
the revision number could simply look it up. I agree that the duplication does 
make people's lives easier, so am happy to do it.
> >
> > Personally, I'm am utterly exhausted by constantly being told by this 
> > person and then that person that some or other completely undocumented 
> > pattern isn't being followed. All I want to do is fix some bugs, get a 
> > release out the door, and help some long suffering Windows folks who are 
> > having problems with static builds.
> 
> Oh, cry me a river. Proper branch management produces repeatable, solid 
> releases for this users.
> 
> You're "exhausted" by two commit reviews?! Seriously?
> 
No Greg, I am exhausted by constantly being told by this person and then that 
person that some or other completely undocumented pattern isn't being followed. 
I thought I made that clear.

This project has come to an agreement in the past over how CHANGES files are to 
be handled. If you disagree with the way this project has decided to handle 
CHANGES files, then start a new thread and reboot that discussion. Do not sweep 
in and accuse me of making reckless backports because I followed the APR 
project's way of backporting instead of subversion's way of backporting.

To be most specific:

http://subversion.apache.org/docs/community-guide/releasing.html#the-changes-file

"Remember that CHANGES should always be edited on trunk and then merged over to 
the release branch(es) when necessary. It is very important that all changes of 
all releases be documented in the CHANGES file on trunk, both for future 
reference and so that future release branches contain the sum of all previous 
change logs."

While I agree with the above, the rest of the APR project does not.

Regards,
Graham
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