I've reported all the information that I have on this topic.  I
haven't had a chance to do any further investigation.

It's strange that a new issue all of a sudden showed up as
UNCONFIRMED, but I guess I'll just chalk that up to Tigris weirdness.

Tom

On Sat, Sep 27, 2008 at 12:44 PM, Linus Tolke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have not changed anything around this since I concluded that it wasn't
> working several years ago. I had hoped that you would describe exactly how
> to do the configuration to make use of the UNCONFIRMED status.
>
>        /Linus
>
> 2008/9/26 Tom Morris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>
>> The latest bug report that I created just came up in UNCONFIRMED
>> status.  Has this been implemented now?  What's the new workflow?
>>
>> If it's possible, it'd be nice to have bug reports created by
>> developers (as opposed to users) be automatically confirmed to NEW
>> status, but I can live with the extra work if it makes it easier to
>> track bugs which haven't been triaged/acknowledged.
>>
>> Tom
>>
>> On Sun, Sep 21, 2008 at 9:53 AM, Tom Morris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > On Sun, Sep 21, 2008 at 5:51 AM, Linus Tolke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Are you saying that you have gotten the change in issuezilla to work as
>> >> you
>> >> want in the ArgoEclipse project?
>> >
>> > If you're asking about getting bugs created in the UNCONFIRMED state,
>> > no, I haven't actually implemented this.  All the information that I
>> > have on it was included in the email quoted below.  The help text said
>> > that it's only for people creating bugs who don't have the right
>> > privileges.  I haven't yet gone through to figure out how to remove
>> > the privileges from the default Observer role.  If I decide to use a
>> > different bug reporting system, I probably won't invest the effort in
>> > trying to figure out Collabnet's IssueZilla system.
>> >
>> > Tom
>> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> 2008/9/20 Tom Morris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> >>>
>> >>> On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 5:54 PM, Dave Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> > I'm wondering about the usefulness of our issue life cycle.
>> >>> >
>> >>> > Aside from reopened/unconfirmed issues, the usual workflow as
>> >>> > defined in
>> >>> > the cookbook
>> >>> >
>> >>> >
>> >>> > (http://argouml-stats.tigris.org/documentation/defaulthtml/cookbook/ch09.html)
>> >>> > is:
>> >>> >
>> >>> > New
>> >>> > Started
>> >>> > Resolved
>> >>> > Verified
>> >>> > Closed
>> >>>
>> >>> I've tried a couple of times over the past three years to get some
>> >>> improvements on the other end of the issue life cycle.  Perhaps it's a
>> >>> good time to attempt to get this fixed again:
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> http://argouml.tigris.org/servlets/SearchList?list=dev&searchText=unconfirmed&defaultField=body&Search=Search
>> >>> (BTW, 3 year turnaround times is why I've completely given up on
>> >>> suggesting any type of process improvements)
>> >>>
>> >>> Basically the goal was to find some way to make sure that all new bugs
>> >>> get triaged in some reasonable amount of time (TBD) so that bug
>> >>> reporters perceived the development team as at least somewhat
>> >>> responsive.  The triaging would make sure that the bug had the right
>> >>> priority and was assigned to the correct component.  If everything was
>> >>> fine, then it would involve a simple ack to the user to acknowledge
>> >>> that we had accepted their bug report.
>> >>>
>> >>> Part of the problem is that we have a large number of components which
>> >>> are either unowned or owned by "developers" who have disappeared.  If
>> >>> the bug reporter chooses one of these components, there's a very real
>> >>> chance that literally YEARS will go by before anyone even looks at
>> >>> their bug report.
>> >>>
>> >>> I recently looked at the Tigris issue reporting for ArgoEclipse
>> >>> because I want to choose a decent bug tracking system before we
>> >>> accumulate too many bug reports.  As best I can tell, to get the
>> >>> UNCONFIRMED state to work, you'd need to remove the "Can submit
>> >>> confirmed bug reports" privilege from the Observer role.
>> >>>
>> >>> Also, the infrastructure that they have to make sure that bugs don't
>> >>> get lost (the "Whine" facility) doesn't really match up with the way
>> >>> the ArgoUML issue states work.  Whine (optionally) kicks in when a bug
>> >>> has been in the NEW state for more than a certain threshold.  This
>> >>> implies that the triage takes place during the NEW->STARTED transition
>> >>> when the bug is accepted, but we typically don't accept a bug until
>> >>> work actually starts on it.
>> >>>
>> >>> Another problem I see with the current system is the use of arbitrary
>> >>> bug priorities to trigger desired behaviors such as stop a release or
>> >>> force Linus to review a patch.  I think it would be much better to not
>> >>> overload/abuse the priority in this manner.  Also, a regression isn't,
>> >>> in my opinion, automatically a showstopper/blocker.
>> >>>
>> >>> Tom
>> >>>
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