There is much I think that should be trashed and redone, the model
interface is a prime example (having everything referred to as Object
outside the model interface is a terrible concept).

But with so much work required to get to UML2 and eclipse I think
everything else such as that is just a distraction.

Unless we can get up to date with UML and be using a reusable
framework then how are we going to encourage others to become
involved?

I would like to replace GEF and much of the GUI but there is little
point unless we have ArgoEclipse as out standard distribution and are
reusing eclipse technologies for what we want to replace.

The problem I have and probably many others of the team is lack of
technical knowledge in building eclipse based applications.

Regards

Bob

On 28 October 2011 11:32, Thomas Neustupny <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> over the years I sometimes wonder what's best for the future of ArgoUML or, 
> more general, for open source UML design tools. Most subsystems of ArgoUML 
> need lot's of work:
>
> - model: we have two model implementations, our model interface is ok to keep 
> working with it --> keep
> - kernel: project management needs important improvements (multiple open 
> projects, model management) --> replace or keep?
> - persistence: some issues like pgml or team collaboration requirements --> 
> replace or keep?
> - property panels: new implementation based on xml templates --> keep
> - graphics: we have issues with tigris gef(?) --> keep or replace?
> - GUI: lots of criticism --> keep or replace?
> - critics: unique --> keep
>
> and so on.
>
> So sometimes I wonder if too many parts of ArgoUML have come to a natural 
> end-of-life to just keep on making punctual improvements?
>
> ArgoEclipse is a nice idea, but it suffers from too many architectural 
> shortcomings of ArgoUML's core.
>
> I even sometimes think to start from scratch or contribute parts of ArgoUML 
> to another project like Papyrus and just try to reuse from our code base 
> rather than keeping ArgoUML alive. (My motivation is very low at the 
> moment...)
>
> What do you think?
>
> Regards,
> Thomas
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