Hi Charles,
>  I prefer not to use EBA on Apache Karaf as we will have conflicts between the
> required osgi version installed and the old needed by Aries Application.

Are you referring back to our earlier discussion about FileInstall?
Otherwise I'm not sure I know what you mean by the "required osgi
version installed and the old needed by Aries Application."

Regards,
Mark

On 6 January 2011 07:19, Charles Moulliard <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi Mark,
>
> Thx for the information and to take the time to answer to my question. We
> have to wait that Aries implements the Resolver Hooks as you mention it in
> your email. In the meantime, I prefer
> not to use EBA on Apache Karaf as we will have conflicts between the
> required osgi version installed and the old needed by Aries Application.
> When Resolver Hooks will be implemented, then I will make new tests with
> EBA. For the moment, we can continue to work with WAR deployment using
> pax-web.
>
> Regards,
>
> Charles
>
>
> On 04/01/11 12:00, Mark Nuttall wrote:
>>
>> Hi Charles,
>>>
>>>  What do you plan to do to align Aries Application with OSGI Service
>>> as you use a deprecated API ony supported by Equinox and not Felix ?
>>
>> It's perhaps worth noting that Felix, to the best of my knowledge,
>> offers no equivalent function. The API is deprecated not because it's
>> been withdrawn, but because it's not yet stable. I hope very much that
>> we will be able to reimplement Aries Application support on top of
>> Resolver Hooks, described in
>> http://www.osgi.org/download/osgi-4.3-early-draft2.pdf, once they
>> become available.
>>
>>> Could you upgrade Aries Application to support Apache Felix
>>> FileInstall range of version from 2.x to 3.x as we use 3.1.0 on Apache
>>> Karaf ?
>>
>> That's not the sort of version range I'd be happy describing anything
>> as supporting :) However if you'd like to raise a JIRA and post a
>> patch moving us up to FileInstall 3.1.0 in general I'd be happy to
>> review and commit it.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Mark
>>
>> On 3 January 2011 10:51, Charles Moulliard<[email protected]>  wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Mark,
>>>
>>> Happy New-Year 2011 and many thanks for the information. I have
>>> started to create a feature file to deploy those bundles on Apache
>>> Karaf OSGI container. What do you plan to do to align Aries
>>> Application with OSGI Service as you use a deprecated API ony
>>> supported by Equinox and not Felix ?
>>>
>>> Remark : Could you upgrade Aries Application to support Apache Felix
>>> FileInstall range of version from 2.x to 3.x as we use 3.1.0 on Apache
>>> Karaf ?
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Charles Moulliard
>>>
>>> Sr. Principal Solution Architect - FuseSource
>>> Apache Committer
>>>
>>> Blog : http://cmoulliard.blogspot.com
>>> Twitter : http://twitter.com/cmoulliard
>>> Linkedin : http://www.linkedin.com/in/charlesmoulliard
>>> Skype: cmoulliard
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Dec 29, 2010 at 11:00 AM, Mark Nuttall<[email protected]>
>>>  wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Charles,
>>>>>
>>>>> 1) Can someone tell me what are the bundles required to deploy eba
>>>>> files on Apache Karaf/Felix ? groupId/artificactId
>>>>
>>>> For some working examples, please see
>>>>
>>>>  application/application-itests/src/test/java/IsolatedRuntimeTest.java,
>>>>
>>>> and the three BlogSampleWithEba itests, such as
>>>>
>>>>  samples/blog/blog-itests/JpaBlogSampleWithEbaTest.java
>>>>
>>>> Firstly there is a set of common prereqs, where the arguments to
>>>> mavenBundle are (group, artifact):
>>>>
>>>>  mavenBundle("org.apache.aries.blueprint", "org.apache.aries.blueprint"
>>>> ),
>>>>  mavenBundle("org.apache.aries.proxy", "org.apache.aries.proxy"),
>>>>  mavenBundle("org.apache.aries", "org.apache.aries.util" ),
>>>>  mavenBundle("org.apache.felix", "org.apache.felix.bundlerepository"),
>>>>
>>>> There there's a set of common bundles in the
>>>> org.apache.aries.application group:
>>>>
>>>>  mavenBundle("org.apache.aries.application",
>>>> "org.apache.aries.application.resolver.obr"),
>>>>  mavenBundle("org.apache.aries.application",
>>>> "org.apache.aries.application.install" ),
>>>>  mavenBundle("org.apache.aries.application",
>>>> "org.apache.aries.application.api" ),
>>>>  mavenBundle("org.apache.aries.application",
>>>> "org.apache.aries.application.management" ),
>>>>  mavenBundle("org.apache.aries.application",
>>>> "org.apache.aries.application.utils" ),
>>>>  mavenBundle("org.apache.aries.application",
>>>> "org.apache.aries.application.modeller"),
>>>>  mavenBundle("org.apache.aries.application",
>>>> "org.apache.aries.application.default.local.platform"),
>>>>  mavenBundle("org.apache.aries.application",
>>>> "org.apache.aries.application.noop.platform.repo"),
>>>>  mavenBundle("org.apache.aries.application",
>>>> "org.apache.aries.application.noop.postresolve.process"),
>>>>  mavenBundle("org.apache.aries.application",
>>>> "org.apache.aries.application.deployment.management"),
>>>>
>>>> Finally we have two different runtimes.
>>>>
>>>>  mavenBundle("org.apache.aries.application",
>>>> "org.apache.aries.application.runtime" ),
>>>>
>>>> is very simple: it just installs every bundle into a single framework.
>>>> It provides no isolation between different .ebas, and was really only
>>>> written so as to demonstrate that
>>>> org.apache.aries.application.management was functional. I don't
>>>> believe anyone's put this runtime to serious use yet.
>>>>
>>>> Alternatively, the next group of bundles provide a far more rugged and
>>>> functional runtime environment, in which the bundles listed in each
>>>> application's Application-Content header are isolated from each other
>>>> by being installed into their own framework. The only drawback here is
>>>> that org.apache.aries.application.runtime.framework has to use
>>>> deprecated APIs based on early drafts of OSGi RFC138
>>>> (org.osgi.service.framework.CompositeBundle,
>>>> org.osgi.service.framework.CompositeBundleFactory) in order to create
>>>> and manage these framework instances. My understanding is that Equinox
>>>> implements these APIs, but that the Felix does not.
>>>>
>>>>  mavenBundle("org.apache.aries.application",
>>>> "org.apache.aries.application.runtime.isolated"),
>>>>  mavenBundle("org.apache.aries.application",
>>>> "org.apache.aries.application.runtime.framework"),
>>>>  mavenBundle("org.apache.aries.application",
>>>> "org.apache.aries.application.runtime.framework.management"),
>>>>  mavenBundle("org.apache.aries.application",
>>>> "org.apache.aries.application.runtime.repository"),
>>>>  equinox().version("3.5.0"));
>>>>
>>>>> 2) Can we deploy an eba file using the same command as we use to
>>>>> deploy a bundle mvn:groupId/artifactId/version/eba ?
>>>>
>>>> I suspect that extra work might be required in order to achieve that.
>>>> As you'll see from the itests, the mechanism today is of the form,
>>>>
>>>>        URL urlToEba = getUrlToEba("org.apache.aries.samples.blog",
>>>> "org.apache.aries.samples.blog.jpa.eba");
>>>>        AriesApplicationManager manager =
>>>> getOsgiService(AriesApplicationManager.class);
>>>>        AriesApplication app = manager.createApplication(urlToEba);
>>>>        AriesApplicationContext ctx = manager.install(app);
>>>>        ctx.start();
>>>>
>>>> Do let us know how you get on!
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Mark
>>>>
>>>> On 27 December 2010 09:03, Charles Moulliard<[email protected]>
>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> 1) Can someone tell me what are the bundles required to deploy eba
>>>>> files on Apache Karaf/Felix ?
>>>>> groupId/artificactId
>>>>>
>>>>> 2) Can we deploy an eba file using the same command as we use to
>>>>> deploy a bundle mvn:groupId/artifactId/version/eba ?
>>>>>
>>>>> Charles Moulliard
>>>>>
>>>>> Sr. Principal Solution Architect - FuseSource
>>>>> Apache Committer
>>>>>
>>>>> Blog : http://cmoulliard.blogspot.com
>>>>> Twitter : http://twitter.com/cmoulliard
>>>>> Linkedin : http://www.linkedin.com/in/charlesmoulliard
>>>>> Skype: cmoulliard
>>>>>
>

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